Evidence of meeting #6 for Finance in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was competition.
5:35 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister
Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes our questions for the panel.
Thank you very much, panellists, for your responses and presentations today.
We'll give you a minute to make your way before the committee continues with its business today.
5:35 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister
Proceeding to number two on your agenda, pursuant to Standing Order 81(4), main estimates 2006-07 referred to the committee Tuesday, April 25, 2006, shall vote 1 under Canada Revenue Agency carry?
CANADA REVENUE AGENCY
Canada Revenue Agency
Vote 1--Program expenditures and recoverable expenditures on behalf of the Canada Pension Plan and the Employment Insurance Act..........$2,551,607,000
(Vote 1 agreed to)
5:35 p.m.
Conservative
5:35 p.m.
NDP
Judy Wasylycia-Leis NDP Winnipeg North, MB
You've lumped vote 10 in with this vote. We've just had two hours of briefs. Surely we're going to discuss this at some point. What was the purpose of this unless we were going to actually see if it has any bearing in terms of how we proceed?
There also is a motion from Mr. Turner. I would hope that we're going to give some thought to how we proceed; otherwise this was just a big joke.
5:35 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister
Well, I doubt that, but as you wish, Madam Wasylycia-Leis, I'll proceed to break them off individually if that's all right with committee members.
FINANCE
Department
Vote 1--Operating expenditures..........$93,135,000
Vote 5--Finance--Grants and contributions..........$404,200,000
Vote L15--Finance--Issuance and payment of demand notes to the International Development Association...............
(Votes 1, 5, and L15 agreed to)
5:35 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister
I'll save vote 10 for the last vote and then we'll move to it.
Shall vote 25 under Canadian International Trade Tribunal carry?
Mr. Pacetti, point of order.
5:35 p.m.
Liberal
Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC
I don't want to get too technical, but I asked for a rough estimate or a budget from the Canadian International Trade Tribunal. I'm not sure if we got anything.
5:35 p.m.
Liberal
Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC
I don't want to hold up the vote, but I do ask, Mr. Chairman, that you at least send them a letter to ask them to send us something.
Thank you.
5:35 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister
Very good. I assure you, Mr. Pacetti, I will follow up on the information that was assured to us by CITT.
Back, then, to vote 25.
FINANCE
Canadian International Trade Tribunal
Vote 25--Program expenditures--$8,609,000
(Vote 25 agreed to on division)
Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada
Vote 30--Program expenditures..........$28,110,000
(Vote 30 agreed to on division)
Office of the Superintendent of Financial Institutions
Vote 35--Program expenditures..........$768,000
(Vote 35 agreed to on division)
5:35 p.m.
Conservative
5:35 p.m.
NDP
Judy Wasylycia-Leis NDP Winnipeg North, MB
Mr. Chairperson, I would argue that we hold in abeyance the decision on this vote until we have some of the questions answered that were raised at our two hours of deliberations. It was a very useful discussion. I don't think all of the questions were answered and I would hope that we would have an opportunity to at least weigh the evidence, read the testimony and make a serious decision.
It would seem to me, Mr. Chairperson, that there were a number of issues raised that many of the witnesses supported, such as some qualifiers placed upon this decision to open up CMHC mortgage insurance for competition. And I would hope that we'd have a chance to at least present some of those ideas and look at a more balanced, reasoned approach to this whole issue.
So if it's possible, I'd like to suggest--I'm not sure what the proper terminology is--we hold it over until we've had a chance to discuss it further.
5:40 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister
You were wanting to suggest we defer it until what point in time?
5:40 p.m.
Conservative
Garth Turner Conservative Halton, ON
Mr. Chairman, I thought we were coming back to this issue under Bill C-13, part 9.
5:40 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister
Yes, we may. I'm trying to get an answer from Madam Wasylycia-Leis first. I'll go to you right after, Mr. Turner.
Sorry, what were you suggesting?
5:40 p.m.
NDP
5:40 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister
So you're suggesting to defer vote 10 until the end of the session?
5:40 p.m.
NDP
Judy Wasylycia-Leis NDP Winnipeg North, MB
I would suggest that at the next opportunity, which would not be tomorrow, since the minister is coming, and I assume Wednesday is already set in terms of witnesses on Bill C-13. I suggest that the following Monday be designated as a time to discuss this issue and see if we're ready for a vote.
5:40 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister
I'm instructed that we don't need a motion, so we'll just continue with the discussion on this and see if we can arrive at a consensus on it.
Mr. Turner, you wanted to make a comment.
5:40 p.m.
Conservative
Garth Turner Conservative Halton, ON
Well, I tried to make the point earlier that I had more questions for the witnesses that you dismissed. Your response was that they're coming back, but actually Triad is not coming back, Desjardins is not coming back, CMHC is not coming back, Canadian Home Builders' aren't coming back, PMI is not coming back, and RBC isn't coming back. So I have more questions.