Evidence of meeting #88 for Finance in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendments.
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4:50 p.m.
Conservative
4:50 p.m.
NDP
4:50 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister
Going back to amendment NDP-2, which essentially changes the title to “An Act to dedicate to municipal infrastructure funding”, you wouldn't need to change that title because NDP-3 is out of order.
So they're both out of order, and we'll move on now.
4:50 p.m.
Liberal
John McCallum Liberal Markham—Unionville, ON
Why didn't you tell her it was out of order before that long speech?
4:50 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister
Well, I'm trying to not hold the reins too tightly, as you know.
(Clause 62 agreed to on division)
(Clauses 63 to 126 inclusive agreed to on division)
4:55 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister
Now, government amendment G-4 on clause 127 is inadmissible, according to my advisers here. They don't want to be on record.
Amendment G-4, I'm advised, my colleagues and friends, is an amendment that I believe you have, although I don't--
4:55 p.m.
Conservative
4:55 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister
It proposes to amend the title. In some committees that's been acceptable and in others not, so I'm given some latitude.
I'll let it proceed, and I'll ask the parliamentary secretary to make some brief remarks as to this amendment and its rationale.
4:55 p.m.
Conservative
Diane Ablonczy Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Members will know that the term “ecoTrust” seems to have intruded into the domain of an existing entity. Therefore, in the spirit of fair play and helping to smooth any troubled waters, the title should be changed to “Clean Air and Climate Change Trust Fund”. That way we're not stepping on the toes of any other entity that's already operating.
I think it's a sensible change; it's a small but important one.
4:55 p.m.
Conservative
4:55 p.m.
Liberal
Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC
I'm uncomfortable going into uncharted waters. You've just thrown a whole bunch of substantive changes out. This is a substantive change when we're changing a title. You're going from “Canada ecoTrust” to “Clean Air”. You're taking that out.
If the government decides to change its mind every month on its environmental policies.... You can't do that in legislation. This is why the legislation was put forward. We can't just go ahead and change titles. No, this is something you should be ruling out of order.
If you're asking for unanimous consent from the committee, that's one thing, but this is--
4:55 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister
No, I'm not, Mr. Pacetti. I've actually already ruled it in order, and--
4:55 p.m.
Liberal
4:55 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister
Well, then, Mr. Pacetti, you can actually ask for a challenge to the chair's ruling.
4:55 p.m.
Liberal
Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC
I am going to ask for a challenge, Mr. Chair.
4:55 p.m.
Liberal
Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC
Well, we either vote for it...but I would rather challenge--
4:55 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister
Well, Mr. Pacetti, I just asked you, if you want to challenge the chair on this one.... Please, I'd encourage you to make a decision on how you want to proceed.
4:55 p.m.
Liberal
Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC
No, I am asking how you've ruled. If you've ruled--
