It's the same motion.
Evidence of meeting #1 for Finance in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was motions.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Evidence of meeting #1 for Finance in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was motions.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Noon
Conservative
The Chair Conservative James Rajotte
Okay. So it's similar to what we did with respect to clause-by-clause consideration of the last budget bill.
Noon
NDP
Peggy Nash NDP Parkdale—High Park, ON
Perhaps I could ask Mr. Saxton just to outline what impact this motion would have on our committee deliberations.
Noon
Conservative
Andrew Saxton Conservative North Vancouver, BC
What it does is allow members of Parliament who are not represented here in committee by other caucus members to have an opportunity to propose amendments.
Noon
NDP
Peggy Nash NDP Parkdale—High Park, ON
Would this mean that they would not be able to move amendments in the House at a later date because they've moved the amendments here at the committee?
Noon
Conservative
The Chair Conservative James Rajotte
Well, just to be clear on that, they could move certain amendments, like the deleting of a clause, but because they would be allowed to move amendments here, they would not be allowed to move those same types of amendments in the House—
Noon
An hon. member
Substantive.
Noon
Conservative
The Chair Conservative James Rajotte
Okay.
I have Monsieur Côté and then Mr. Brison.
Mr. Côté, go ahead.
Noon
NDP
Raymond Côté NDP Beauport—Limoilou, QC
I want to express my concern. Our floor time is limited, and the government has repeatedly introduced omnibus bills. I would like Mr. Saxton to assure us that we will have more time to comment than before. I am not really convinced that this will be the case, since we have only five minutes each during a two-hour meeting. Even though additional committee meetings were added, we have less than two months left to do our work before the holidays. I am fairly concerned about this proposed motion regarding the time that will be allotted to the rest of the standing committee's members.
Noon
Liberal
Scott Brison Liberal Kings—Hants, NS
Thank you.
In the past, the Bloc members and the Green Party both have been opposed to this because they view this as being very limiting in terms of their participation in the House. I think that's important to recognize as well in terms of the consideration, because this will affect other honourable members, and those honourable members are opposed to this motion.
12:05 p.m.
Conservative
12:05 p.m.
Conservative
Randy Hoback Conservative Prince Albert, SK
I appreciate what you say, Mr. Brison, but the reality is that by their not being able to present at committee they actually present at report stage, so they actually get a benefit that none of these committee members here have. That benefit—
12:05 p.m.
An hon. member
Exactly.
12:05 p.m.
Conservative
Randy Hoback Conservative Prince Albert, SK
This is a fair way to deal with the issues that the independents or members without parties want to bring forward in a piece of legislation. They can do it here in committee. They have the chance to vet it here in committee and then we can vote on it as committee members. It doesn't change the voting. It doesn't change the process as far as how committee meetings are running; it just gives them an opportunity to present here instead of doing it in the House.
As I actually look at it, with their presenting in the House, it gives them a benefit that we don't have.
12:05 p.m.
Conservative
12:05 p.m.
Conservative
Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB
Just very quickly, I was going to agree with Mr. Hoback. I think it's fair to say that we were all elected by particular regions of the country and we should all be treated the same. I don't think any one particular member should get any more rights than any other just because they're associated with a political party.
12:05 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative James Rajotte
Thank you, Mr. Jean.
I would like to clarify, and the clerk can comment if she wants, but in response to Mr. Côté's concern, and I don't know if it addresses his concern, as I understand the motion, it would not limit the members of this committee with respect to any intervention on a bill, a report, or any hearings.
Ms. Nash.