Evidence of meeting #4 for Fisheries and Oceans in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was areas.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Tom Rosser  Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic Policy, Department of Fisheries and Oceans
Kevin Stringer  Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Ecosystems and Fisheries Management, Department of Fisheries and Oceans
Arran McPherson  Director General, Ecosystems Science, Department of Fisheries and Oceans
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. David Chandonnet

5:20 p.m.

NDP

Fin Donnelly NDP Port Moody—Coquitlam, BC

In 2005.

5:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

Before I go to Mr. Arnold, Mr. McDonald, do you want to address that?

5:20 p.m.

Liberal

Ken McDonald Liberal Avalon, NL

Yes.

On the other species, it would include shrimp. If the cod are eating the shrimp, or if we suspect they're eating the shrimp, it obviously does have an effect on that species. I'd like to know if that's why the stock is going down. Area 6 in the shrimp fishery is the one they're having a problem with. Is it because there's a resurgence of cod in that area? A lot of environmentalists will say no, that the water temperature is affecting both the return of the cod and the deplenishing of the shrimp, but hopefully the study will show us if the cod are the main factor.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

Go ahead.

5:25 p.m.

NDP

Fin Donnelly NDP Port Moody—Coquitlam, BC

Yes, thank you.

Thank you for the clarification on that. I think that helps me clarify who the witnesses are that could be invited, so this is great.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

We're getting short on time, folks.

Mr. Arnold.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Mel Arnold Conservative North Okanagan—Shuswap, BC

I don't want to confuse things, but if we want to make sure everything is included in this, I would offer that we could amend it to state that the study would evaluate the replenishment of the cod stock and what conditions and species are affecting or are affected by it.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

Give us one moment while we get that down.

Okay, Ms. Jordan, you go ahead while we're getting that down. I'm trying to be judicious with time here.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Bernadette Jordan Liberal South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

I think the motion as it reads addresses those issues. I think the motion is fine the way it is.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

You can vote against it if you wish. That's basically how it goes.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Mark Strahl Conservative Chilliwack—Hope, BC

Unless it's accepted as a friendly amendment, I think we'll....

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Bernadette Jordan Liberal South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

I think we should vote.

5:25 p.m.

NDP

Fin Donnelly NDP Port Moody—Coquitlam, BC

I think what Mel's suggesting is that if Ken would consider that friendly....

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

The other issue, as a friendly recommendation from your chair, is that we're also omitting the words “report to the House”. Would anybody like to...?

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Ken McDonald Liberal Avalon, NL

Add “and report its conclusions to the House”.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

Add “and report its conclusions to the House”.

Now we have to deal with Mr. Arnold's amendment.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Mel Arnold Conservative North Okanagan—Shuswap, BC

I was assisting the clerk, so I didn't hear the discussion as I stepped over.

If you're fine with it as is, yes.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

Are you withdrawing?

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Mel Arnold Conservative North Okanagan—Shuswap, BC

I'll withdraw my amendment.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

Okay. What about “report its conclusions to the House”? I can't move it, so perhaps—

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Ken McDonald Liberal Avalon, NL

Yes, I'll move that.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

Mr. McDonald, you'd like to move the amendment to add “report its findings to the House”?

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Ken McDonald Liberal Avalon, NL

Yes.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

Okay, so we have two votes.

We have to vote on the amendment.

(Amendment agreed to)

It has been amended. Now we have to vote on the main motion, which states all that was said before, plus it now includes “report its conclusions to the House”.

(Motion as amended agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

It's unanimous.

The meeting is now adjourned.