Health Committee on April 10th, 2008

[David Tilson, Conservative, Dufferin—Caledon, ON]

Okay, Mr. Chairman, I appreciate this notice of motion that has been presented by Mr. Thibault. We've had a number of sessions on organ donor matters. We've had at least four hours. Is it four hours, I think, Madam Clerk? I think the motion may be in order, but I think the issue is that this is another way of asking for a report.

Madam Wasylycia-Leis raised this issue—

[The Vice-Chair, Liberal, Lui Temelkovski]

Mr. Tilson, that's not a point of order.

[David Tilson, Conservative, Dufferin—Caledon, ON]

Well, it is, Mr. Chair.

[The Vice-Chair, Liberal, Lui Temelkovski]

That's debate.

[David Tilson, Conservative, Dufferin—Caledon, ON]

Mr. Chair, I'd like to finish what my point of order is.

Madam Wasylycia-Leis raised this issue as to whether we were going to make a report and this—

[The Vice-Chair, Liberal, Lui Temelkovski]

Mr. Tilson, this is debate on the motion.

[David Tilson, Conservative, Dufferin—Caledon, ON]

No, it's not, Mr. Chair. With respect—

[The Vice-Chair, Liberal, Lui Temelkovski]

Also, the member has not introduced his motion yet.

[David Tilson, Conservative, Dufferin—Caledon, ON]

Then you'll give me an opportunity to speak on a point of order after he's made his motion. I'm going to say the same thing.

[The Vice-Chair, Liberal, Lui Temelkovski]

That's debate. It's not a point of order; that's debate.

[David Tilson, Conservative, Dufferin—Caledon, ON]

Mr. Chair, I'm suggesting that this matter be referred to in camera proceedings because, in effect, it's another way of dealing with debating what is going to be the contents of a report, and normally when you talk about a report, that is done during in camera proceedings. I don't recall ever being in a committee, Mr. Chairman, where you discuss what's going to be in a report in public session.

[The Vice-Chair, Liberal, Lui Temelkovski]

Okay, I hear you. What you're saying is that you want it to be in camera.

[David Tilson, Conservative, Dufferin—Caledon, ON]

That's what my point of order is.

[The Vice-Chair, Liberal, Lui Temelkovski]

That's good. That's a long way to get to the point of order. Thank you.

[David Tilson, Conservative, Dufferin—Caledon, ON]

I'm sorry. I have that way about me.

[The Vice-Chair, Liberal, Lui Temelkovski]

That's what I like about you.

I think we can—

[Steven Fletcher, Conservative, Charleswood—St. James—Assiniboia, MB]

On a separate point—

[The Vice-Chair, Liberal, Lui Temelkovski]

Excuse me. Can we have a show of hands on whether we go in—

[David Tilson, Conservative, Dufferin—Caledon, ON]

Mr. Chair, I know you're going to ask for a vote on this. I'm saying that normally the process is that when you discuss a report, you don't need a motion. That matter is dealt with during in camera proceedings. Can you tell me a committee—

[An hon. member]

Well, Mr. Chair—

[David Tilson, Conservative, Dufferin—Caledon, ON]

Excuse me.

Mr. Chair, can you tell me of a committee that has ever discussed—

[An hon. member]

I'm trying to help you, David.

[David Tilson, Conservative, Dufferin—Caledon, ON]

—the contents of a report in open session? I can't.

[The Vice-Chair, Liberal, Lui Temelkovski]

We're not discussing a report right now, Mr. Tilson.

[David Tilson, Conservative, Dufferin—Caledon, ON]

Well, that's what this says, Mr. Chair.