Evidence of meeting #2 for Health in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was ndp.
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Conservative
Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON
What I'm trying to do at the end of it.... The way we're proposing it, the Conservatives had a little less than half, but maybe we can come up with a good compromise here too.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Joy Smith
Okay.
I think, Dr. Bennett, if I'm correct, what you said is that the first round is as we suggested.
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Conservative
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Liberal
Carolyn Bennett Liberal St. Paul's, ON
It would be Liberal.... The official opposition goes first every time, but then in the second round the government goes second.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Joy Smith
—and then the Bloc and then the NDP. And that's for the second round.
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Liberal
Carolyn Bennett Liberal St. Paul's, ON
Yes.
In the third round, it goes official opposition, Bloc, then government, and then NDP.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Joy Smith
Okay.
Now we're getting somewhere. We're starting to consolidate our thoughts. So to go over it again, this is what Dr. Bennett suggested.
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Liberal
Carolyn Bennett Liberal St. Paul's, ON
Madam Chair, I just think this works to the reality of our sometimes getting to only two rounds. Otherwise the arithmetic is sort of academic.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Joy Smith
So Liberal, Bloc, NDP, Conservative. In the second round, Liberal, Conservative, Bloc, NDP. Then if we have a third round, Liberal, Bloc, Conservative, NDP.
Mr. Carrie.
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Conservative
Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON
I'm proposing that it counts out as the first round having four spots and each party getting one of those. In the second round, if we get that, the Liberals will end up having two, the Bloc will have two, and the Conservatives end up with two in that one together, which makes three out of eight that the Conservatives have. At the end of the round, at the end of what we're proposing right here, the Conservatives would get five out of eleven, which is a little less than half, which is how the House is set up. The Liberals would get three out of eleven, which is close proportionately. The Bloc would get two out of eleven and the NDP one. In the House the Bloc has almost double the number of seats of the NDP. So in your line, I believe you're proposing that the Bloc get the same as the NDP. I haven't had a chance to copy it down quickly.
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Conservative
Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON
At the end of the day, doing it the way I'm suggesting, the Conservatives are still getting less than half of the questions in the two rounds, which, you said, most of the time we didn't get to. Because the Conservatives had the last two questions in the second round, if we don't get that round done, we're the ones who lose that proportionality.
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Conservative
Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON
If you look here at the first round, it's Liberal, Bloc, NDP, Conservative. Then it says the second round would be Liberal, Conservative, Bloc, Conservative, Liberal, and then Conservative.
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Liberal
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Conservative
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Conservative
Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON
With the original proposal, Madam Bennett, if it doesn't go through the full two rounds, if you're looking at the percentage, the Conservatives would lose the last two spots, which means out of nine the Conservatives would get only three, which is less than one-third of the seats.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Joy Smith
Mr. Carrie, so you're saying to go back to Liberal, Bloc, NDP, Conservative after that? What are you suggesting?
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Conservative