Evidence of meeting #11 for Health in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was point.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Frank Plummer  Scientific Director General, National Microbiology Laboratory, Public Health Agency of Canada
David Butler-Jones  Chief Public Health Officer, Public Health Agency of Canada
Steven Sternthal  Acting Director, HIV/AIDS Policy, Coordination and Programs Division, Centre for Infectious Disease Prevention and Control, Population and Public Health Branch, Department of Health

9:05 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

I am calling this committee to order.

9:05 a.m.

Liberal

Carolyn Bennett Liberal St. Paul's, ON

No, you call him to order.

9:05 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

Sit down, Dr. Bennett, please.

9:05 a.m.

Liberal

Carolyn Bennett Liberal St. Paul's, ON

This is not a point of order. This is a prepared statement from the PMO.

9:05 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

Go ahead, Dr. Carrie.

9:05 a.m.

Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

This is my point of order, Madam Chair. She brought it up. She brought up the minister, she brought up the--

9:05 a.m.

Liberal

Carolyn Bennett Liberal St. Paul's, ON

No, we passed a motion in the committee for the minister to appear. It is the will of this committee.

9:05 a.m.

Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

Madam Chair, we heard testimony from senior public health officials and the Gates Foundation. There was no political interference in the cancellation of the vaccine manufacturing facility.

9:05 a.m.

An hon. member

Well, that's what we're here to find out.

9:05 a.m.

Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

It is absolutely unacceptable that some of the opposition members of this committee play politics on the federal taxpayers' dime. As a result of continued partisan political campaigning, this committee has recalled two extremely busy people--

9:05 a.m.

Liberal

Carolyn Bennett Liberal St. Paul's, ON

Why is he doing a point of order in the middle of what I asked for as a point of order, Madam Chair?

9:05 a.m.

Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

--Dr. Butler-Jones and Dr. Plummer, have graciously agreed to come back again, mainly on account of the allegations from the local Liberal candidate--the twice-failed Liberal candidate in Winnipeg--who also happens to be the former CEO of ICID.

As a result of these second-hand allegations, we're holding an additional meeting so that members opposite can--

9:05 a.m.

Liberal

Carolyn Bennett Liberal St. Paul's, ON

No, it's so we can hear from the ministers. That's what the motion said.

9:05 a.m.

Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

--throw more slanderous accusations and insults at Conservative members, ministers of the crown, and top medical officials--

9:05 a.m.

Liberal

Carolyn Bennett Liberal St. Paul's, ON

This is total contempt of Parliament, Colin.

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Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

--of this country.

Madam Chair, I have the floor.

9:05 a.m.

Liberal

Carolyn Bennett Liberal St. Paul's, ON

You do not.

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Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

This is a federal parliamentary committee, and we should require a higher standard of evidence than second-hand information from a former and current--

9:05 a.m.

Liberal

Carolyn Bennett Liberal St. Paul's, ON

How about first-hand, from the minister?

9:05 a.m.

Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

--twice-failed Liberal candidate.

Madam Chair, this is a parliamentary committee, and we should treat it as such. My colleague from Winnipeg, Ms. Wasylycia-Leis, said during the last meeting that she was embarrassed to be Canadian. Well, frankly, I'm embarrassed to be sitting here listening to such unparliamentary conduct. Shame on her. Shame on you. Let this committee return to important business, such as the issues we have been looking at today, instead of a witch hunt, a hunt by the federalist coalition. Or is this a separatist or sovereignist coalition?

9:05 a.m.

Liberal

Carolyn Bennett Liberal St. Paul's, ON

Oh, please.

9:05 a.m.

Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

What's going on, Madam Chair?

That's my statement.

9:05 a.m.

Liberal

Carolyn Bennett Liberal St. Paul's, ON

That was really overwritten.

9:05 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

Thank you, Dr. Carrie.

I would just like to say at the outset that number one, you recognize the chair, not the clerk, if you have a point of order. I didn't hear a point of order. Number two, there wasn't any point of order. I know that.

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

Carolyn Bennett Liberal St. Paul's, ON

Could you ask the clerk whether I asked if I could raise a point of order?