Evidence of meeting #56 for Health in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was million.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Elinor Wilson  President, Assisted Human Reproduction Canada
David Butler-Jones  Chief Public Health Officer, Public Health Agency of Canada
Glenda Yeates  Deputy Minister, Department of Health
Alain Beaudet  President, Canadian Institutes of Health Research

4:25 p.m.

Chief Public Health Officer, Public Health Agency of Canada

Dr. David Butler-Jones

Well, again, as we've done with all governments, we share them with other departments, with the ministers' offices, etc., for their information. At the end of the day, I have to be accountable for what we put up on the web.

4:25 p.m.

NDP

Megan Leslie NDP Halifax, NS

Okay.

Thank you.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

Now we'll go to Ms. Ashton.

4:25 p.m.

NDP

Niki Ashton NDP Churchill, MB

Thank you, Madam Chair.

My question is with relation to healing programming for aboriginal communities. Last year, the request to extend the funding for critical programming to the Aboriginal Healing Foundation was denied. We were told repeatedly that Health Canada was going to take on the role of providing necessary healing programming for residential school survivors in communities that are struggling with the trauma of residential schools. Those programs were taken away from the region that I represent in northern Manitoba, and also, I know, from regions across Canada.

Here is my question. Despite those commitments, I don't see any reference in the estimates, and certainly not in the budget, to an understanding of what exactly Health Canada has done, or of course is planning to do, most importantly, to ensure that this programming is available, not in terms of NNADAP work, not in terms of addictions work, but with a focus on healing, and a focus on community healing in the decentralized model that was so successful under the Aboriginal Healing Foundation.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

Madam Minister.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Leona Aglukkaq Conservative Nunavut, NU

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Madam Chair, as I've stated before, the portion to provide healing support to survivors of residential schools with regard to Health Canada remains: Budget 2010 announced $65.9 million to continue to provide the supports to the victims of residential schools. I've stated that in the House. Those continue to be rolled out to individuals.

Individuals who went to residential schools have a choice of whether they want to participate in group counselling in their language or in a one-on-one with a professional. It's up to the individual. Those supports continue to be rolled out across Canada. This, in my mind, is a much needed area, and it was never cut.

Thank you.

4:25 p.m.

NDP

Niki Ashton NDP Churchill, MB

If I could, I will just ask a quick follow-up. I appreciate that these services might be available, but they are not available north of 53 in Manitoba, so my question is, where exactly are these programs available? And certainly at the community level, not in flying people out to be counselled in Winnipeg.... Also, exactly what is that vision for the next year to provide that necessary community-based counselling?

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Leona Aglukkaq Conservative Nunavut, NU

As I've stated before, there are two different programs that we're talking about. The aboriginal healing part, to provide assistance to victims of residential schools, remains. That never was gone, to provide the assistance.... Other programs done through the Aboriginal Healing Foundation, which is separate from this, provided a number of community-based initiatives on land skills, language, sewing, and whatnot. A lot of programs were covered under that initiative.

The initiative that I'm talking about is providing direct support to victims of residential schools, the healing piece of it, and $65.9 million remains in the budget, Budget 2010. That's still available to those individuals, the victims of residential schools.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

Thank you.

Do you have other questions? You have about a minute and a half left.

4:25 p.m.

NDP

Megan Leslie NDP Halifax, NS

I do. Thanks, Madam Chair.

I'm looking for a yes or no answer from the minister. I know that the minister and the federal, territorial, and provincial health ministers met in the fall; I think earlier you may have said it was in September. Pharmacare wasn't on the agenda, was it?

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Leona Aglukkaq Conservative Nunavut, NU

Thank you, Madam Chair.

The conversation related to pharmacare has been going on since 2005.

4:30 p.m.

NDP

Megan Leslie NDP Halifax, NS

But it wasn't on the agenda.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Leona Aglukkaq Conservative Nunavut, NU

It's a conversation that's been going on since 2005.

4:30 p.m.

NDP

Megan Leslie NDP Halifax, NS

The health accord wasn't on the agenda either, was it?

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Leona Aglukkaq Conservative Nunavut, NU

The ministers know, the PTs know, that there's a mandatory requirement for a review. PTs are well aware that I have asked the Senate committee to do the review.

4:30 p.m.

NDP

Megan Leslie NDP Halifax, NS

The 2014 renegotiation wasn't on the agenda either, was it?

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Leona Aglukkaq Conservative Nunavut, NU

The 2014 mandatory review is a requirement before any discussions can take place, as per the legislation. That's now before the Senate committee, and we will be voting today whether you want to participate in that or not.

4:30 p.m.

NDP

Megan Leslie NDP Halifax, NS

Thank you.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

Thank you.

Now we'll go to our second round. We'll go to our members on the Conservative side. There you go. You can't say I'm not being fair.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

Chair, for a moment I thought you forgot about us over here.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

I could never forget about you, especially with your new glasses. I didn't recognize you since I got back.

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Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

Thank you. It's wonderful to have you back.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

Thank you.

We're going to have Dr. Carrie and Ms. Davidson share their time.

We'll begin with Dr. Carrie.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I want to thank you, Minister, and congratulate you, coming off the budget. I think we have a good story for health care in Canada. I have already gotten feedback on the family caregiver tax credit of $2,000 to help Canadians who will be having to stay at home to look after a family member who may be ill.

We had the opportunity to travel up north as a committee, and we got to see the challenges that these remote communities have in recruiting and retaining physicians. Sometimes when there are rumours that there could be an election out there, the jurisdictions between the provinces and territories sometimes get blurred. One of the things that was in the budget was quite exciting for me. I know your commitment to getting more health care professionals up north has been rock solid. How will the Government of Canada's investment in family medicine residencies support the provincial and territorial efforts to recruit and retain physicians in underserved communities? Would you be able to follow through with that?

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

Madam Minister.