Evidence of meeting #1 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Michelle Tittley
Michel Bédard  Committee Researcher

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

The part that says “a member of the other opposition party”?

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON

Yes.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Absolutely.

That would leave us with the chair, the two vice-chairs, and one other government member.

Is that correct, Mr. Lukiwski?

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK

Yes, but I would just like to add “the parliamentary secretary”.

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NDP

Chris Charlton NDP Hamilton Mountain, ON

Is that in addition to?

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Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK

Yes, in addition to; I'm just counting the numbers here.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

All right. So it now reads:

That the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure be composed of the Chair, the two Vice-Chairs, one government member and the parliamentary secretary.

To that motion, all in favour?

(Motion as amended agreed to)

Great.

I'm not sure what “Meeting without a quorum” is:

That the Chair be authorized to hold meetings to receive and publish evidence when a quorum is not present, provided that at least three (3) members are present, including one member of the opposition.

Oh, I understand what this is.

Mr. Reid.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON

With this one, I just want to confirm that this doesn't mean that we can't have a regular meeting with a regular quorum for the purpose of hearing testimony.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

I don't take it to say that, but we'll have that discussion. I take it that if there's a reduced number of people in the room and we have witnesses, we could still hear from them. That's what this is trying to say.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON

So this gives us another option for that purpose only, but does not tie us to that. I suppose, by definition....

Now that I think about it, it's a silly question. Of course we've had witnesses in the past with full membership.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Right. It allows us to hear from witnesses with a reduced quorum so that if witnesses are here and we don't have many, we can still hear from them.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON

Okay.

Having just asked this really silly question, I should ask, these aren't televised meetings, right?

11:15 a.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

At the will of the committee, they're all televised meetings.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON

No, I meant this meeting.

That's fine. I should have thought that through.

Thanks.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Mr. Comartin.

11:15 a.m.

NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

Just for the record, quorum is 50% normally?

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Normally.

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NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

Thank you.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

But this allows us a reduced quorum to hear testimony from witnesses.

11:15 a.m.

NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

Yes.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

On that, meeting without a quorum....

Mr. Lukiwski.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK

Perhaps we could have “including one member of the opposition and at least one member of the government”.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Okay. You want to add that there be at least three members present, including one member of the opposition and one member of the government.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK

Yes.