Evidence of meeting #73 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was commission.
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Conservative
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Conservative
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Conservative
Roxanne James Conservative Scarborough Centre, ON
Instead of moving the boundary there at Bendale, I'm suggesting the very bottom corner, which is the southeast corner of Scarborough Centre. It's an area known as South Cedarbrae. It goes a bit on a jagged edge over to Danforth. I'm suggesting that be moved back into Guildwood, where it actually belongs.
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Conservative
Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON
Effectively, then, with respect to the boundary they're showing south of Lawrence Avenue, they're showing the boundary between Scarborough—Guildwood and Scarborough Centre as being Bellamy, and you were suggesting that it move further west and it become McCowan?
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Conservative
Roxanne James Conservative Scarborough Centre, ON
For South Cedarbrae, it actually follows the green space, the park at McCowan Road.
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Conservative
Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON
I see. Okay. On your map, I see there's a—
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Roxanne James Conservative Scarborough Centre, ON
There's actually an attachment I, which is labelled in the package that I provided the committee, and it clearly shows the new boundaries that I'm proposing. You can clearly see Southwest—
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Conservative
Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON
Yes, I do see that. On your other map, map B, when I look very closely—I didn't bring my reading glasses—I see a very faint grey shaded area, so effectively it's through the middle of the park, and there are no roads. So it's a natural break.
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Conservative
Roxanne James Conservative Scarborough Centre, ON
It's a break, and currently all of the polls, with regard to the last election, are divided in that manner as well. There's no poll number that actually transcends either side of that natural divider.
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Conservative
Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON
Okay. Now I get all of that.
There's a last thing I want to ask you. When I take a look at the boundary between you and Scarborough Southwest in the status quo, what you have right now, and in the report, the Scarborough Southwest riding has the same northern boundary it currently has.
In the proposal from the commission from last August, that boundary was changed in part, and a triangle that was bounded on the south of Eglinton Avenue, on the north by a transmission line, and on the east by a railroad line, I guess—
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An hon. member
RT tracks.
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Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON
Oh, thank you. It was moved, so is that the part you're talking about changing there?
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Conservative
Roxanne James Conservative Scarborough Centre, ON
Yes. It would actually stay exactly as the current boundaries are today.
My colleague from Scarborough Southwest actually talked about the area known as Ionview, and that's part of the community that I am suggesting in my counter proposal stay in Scarborough Southwest.
As I said, again, the concentration for the direction of this should be in the northeast corner and northeast area of Scarborough—and certainly in the riding that's farthest away, without an issue with population, the boundaries should stay exactly as they are today.
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Conservative
Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON
Forgive me, I actually don't know the answer to this question, but is the transmission line a meaningful barrier or is it not?
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Conservative
Roxanne James Conservative Scarborough Centre, ON
That transmission line is actually the LRT. Oh, were you talking about the hydro line?
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Conservative
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Conservative
Roxanne James Conservative Scarborough Centre, ON
That's the current boundary right now, and I propose that boundary stay the same.
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Conservative
Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON
Yes, but what I'm asking you is about the transmission line there. Sometimes a transmission line is a significant boundary to cross, sometimes it's not. In this case is it, in your opinion?
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Conservative
Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON
It is, okay.
How much time do I have left, Mr. Chair?
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Conservative
Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON
All right. I've probably asked all I need to ask.
Thank you very much.
Actually, tell me about the name, your request for the new name.
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Conservative
Roxanne James Conservative Scarborough Centre, ON
Yes, growing up in Scarborough, I used to bike there with my brother when I was little. I grew up in Scarborough—Agincourt. I know the area well. I live in Scarborough Centre. Having the name Scarborough—Rouge for that particular riding, instead of Scarborough East, makes sense. It depicts the area. It gives prominence to the Rouge Valley, the Rouge River, and the future national park. I think that in future years that area will become one of the most prestigious areas of Scarborough, and I think that the particular name should be Scarborough—Rouge to reflect that area.
Thank you.
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Conservative
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NDP
Craig Scott NDP Toronto—Danforth, ON
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
If I could, I'd like to begin with Mr. Karygiannis.
Mr. Karygiannis, in view of the objections you have to the commission's final or penultimate map, are you aware that the chair of the commission is Justice George Valin, who has been on the Superior Court of Justice since 1990, and who had been director of the Ontario Superior Court Judges' Association for 10 years?
Are you aware of that fact?
