Citizenship and Immigration Committee on Nov. 7th, 2006

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

Okay, and I think that's what we'll do.

[Rahim Jaffer, Conservative, Edmonton Strathcona, AB]

—and call the question, if you wish. But it's in your hands, if you want—

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

Okay, let's move quickly to the votes, then.

[Jim Karygiannis, Liberal, Scarborough—Agincourt, ON]

Mr. Chair, moving quickly through votes that are important--after asking questions from the minister, we might have some more questions on these estimates--certainly two minutes does not do them justice.

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

Well, I'm calling a vote—

[Jim Karygiannis, Liberal, Scarborough—Agincourt, ON]

You can't have two minutes, Mr. Chair—

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

I'm calling the vote—

[Jim Karygiannis, Liberal, Scarborough—Agincourt, ON]

—on such an important issue.

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

Order, Mr. Karygiannis. Order, please.

I'm calling vote 2a. Now, if you have some comments to make on vote 2a, we will go to that.

Shall vote 2a carry?

[Jim Karygiannis, Liberal, Scarborough—Agincourt, ON]

Let's have a discussion on vote 2a, Mr. Chair.

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

Okay, I'll call for discussion on vote 2a.

Who shall I recognize? Shall vote 2a carry?

[Jim Karygiannis, Liberal, Scarborough—Agincourt, ON]

Just a minute. You called for discussion, Mr. Chair—

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

Yes, and I'm waiting for hands to go up as to who's discussing.

[Jim Karygiannis, Liberal, Scarborough—Agincourt, ON]

But hold on, you called for discussion. I've noticed that you're swift on the gavel and you are hard prone to put these estimates through, so there's—

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

Order, please. The chair—

[Jim Karygiannis, Liberal, Scarborough—Agincourt, ON]

Is this a democracy, Mr. Chair—

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

Order, please.

[Jim Karygiannis, Liberal, Scarborough—Agincourt, ON]

—or is it a dictatorship that you're running right now?

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

Order, please, Mr. Karygiannis.

[Jim Karygiannis, Liberal, Scarborough—Agincourt, ON]

You are running a dictatorship.

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

Order, please.

[Jim Karygiannis, Liberal, Scarborough—Agincourt, ON]

You're trying to move these estimates so quickly through without even asking for discussion, Mr. Chair.

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

Order.

If you would give me a chance, Mr. Karygiannis, I'm calling vote 2a. Every member of the committee is free to discuss vote 2a. I'm waiting for hands to go up.

I will recognize Mr. Wilson.

[Blair Wilson, Liberal, West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast—Sea to Sky Country, BC]

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I wonder if you would mind reading the details of vote 2a to the committee.

[The Chair, Conservative, Norman Doyle]

Okay.

Pursuant to section 25(2) of the Financial Administration Act, to write off from the Accounts of Canada 3,164 debts due to Her Majesty in Right of Canada amounting to $986,871 related to immigration loans issued pursuant to section 88 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act – To authorize the transfer of $41,349 from Citizenship and Immigration Vote 1, Appropriation Act No. 1, 2006-2007 for the purposes of this Vote and to provide a further amount of

And it's listed there.