Evidence of meeting #36 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was born.
A recording is available from Parliament.
1 p.m.
Liberal
Andrew Telegdi Liberal Kitchener—Waterloo, ON
I am moving that we keep going until the time we said we would, which was 1:30.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle
Well, let's dismiss the minister and her deputy first.
I want to thank the minister and her deputy for being here today. Hopefully, all the questioning the minister has heard will be helpful to her in making decisions regarding this very important issue.
I'll dismiss the minister right now, and we will entertain Mr. Telegdi's motion.
Again, thank you, Minister.
I'm going to go to Mr. Telegdi to present his motion.
1:05 p.m.
Liberal
Andrew Telegdi Liberal Kitchener—Waterloo, ON
Mr. Chairman, my motion is that we extend the hearings until 1:30, just as we indicated before. The minister numerous times made mention that Canadians born here are Canadians, and we have somebody with us today, Mr. Chapman, who happens to be a lost Canadian who was born in Canada. He represents, I dare say, hundreds of thousands of people like him.
So my motion is that we continue our meeting until 1:30, as we said originally that we were going to do.
1:05 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle
All in favour of the motion, which is to continue until 1:30, please signify.
Those opposed, please signify.
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Liberal
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Conservative
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Liberal
Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON
Mr. Chair, I'd like a recorded vote. I'm talking to you and not the clerk. I'm asking you for a recorded vote, regardless—
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Conservative
Rahim Jaffer Conservative Edmonton Strathcona, AB
On a point of order, Mr. Chair, I'm very surprised right now at what's happening in this committee. Generally we've had a really good relationship working in this committee.
There's obviously been a mistake here. There's been a mistake in what was sent to our offices and in the time this committee was supposed to be scheduled. I have a meeting right now, at one o'clock.
We have generally tended to agree, Mr. Telegdi, that we always work in that sort of relationship...and you guys are making it incredibly difficult for us to have this good will towards you. We understand that you've sidelined us here with a witness, but none of us knew that this was going to happen.
Generally we accommodate you, Mr. Telegdi, so I think this is completely unfair. If you want to poison the relationship on this committee with your actions today, then that's your choice. But I'm actually very frustrated right now. When I get a notice like this, and the clerk has said he's made the mistake--
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Liberal
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Conservative
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Conservative
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Liberal
Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON
Mr. Jaffer is out of order. I asked for a recorded vote, Mr. Chair, and I'd like to know the recorded vote.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle
Order.
Mr. Jaffer has the floor. We will get around to the recorded vote--
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle
--in a moment.
Are you finished, Mr. Jaffer? Okay.
Now we will go to a recorded vote.
(Motion agreed to: yeas 6; nays 5)
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Conservative
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Conservative
Barry Devolin Conservative Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON
On a point of order, Mr. Chair, I have a question. I don't know my rules that well, but is it acceptable in a meeting to just name a witness who happens to be in the room but who doesn't show up on the agenda and bring them forward to—
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle
As long as that happens to be the matter of study, yes, we can call witnesses that way.
We will ask our witness to come to the table.
We have approximately 20 minutes to deal with this witness. We will begin our round.