Evidence of meeting #46 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was rad.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Malcolm Brown  Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic and Program Policy, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Micheline Aucoin  Director General, Refugees Branch, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Eric Stevens  Legal Counsel, Legal Services, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Paul Aterman  Director General, Operations Branch, Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

I will speak to the amendment.

For the benefit of those who just recently came to this committee and are raising matters of order with respect to the amendment, what we have here is a bill that has come to this committee for the first time today. With respect to a bill that has not yet been proclaimed, the committee members are trying to jam through all of the witnesses in one day, without full and adequate discussion and questions to each witness with respect to relevant portions of the amendments to the bill.

They have already indicated that five years have passed and circumstances have changed. Ministers have changed position because of the passage of time and the differences in the system. They have indicated that there are amendments that need to be considered—

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Liberal

Blair Wilson Liberal West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast—Sea to Sky Country, BC

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

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Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

—from a practical point of view, and we haven't had the opportunity to fully canvass—

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

There's a point of order. Mr. Wilson.

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Liberal

Blair Wilson Liberal West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast—Sea to Sky Country, BC

I'd just like to add—

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Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

We haven't been able to fully canvass—

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Liberal

Blair Wilson Liberal West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast—Sea to Sky Country, BC

Excuse me, but who has the floor?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Mr. Komarnicki.

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Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

—from those witnesses, all of the—

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Mr. Komarnicki, Mr. Wilson has a point of order on the floor.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

Blair Wilson Liberal West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast—Sea to Sky Country, BC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I just wanted to bring to your attention that the government of the day, the Conservative Party, is now filibustering in every single committee on Parliament Hill at this time.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

Andrew Telegdi Liberal Kitchener—Waterloo, ON

This is not democracy.

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Liberal

Blair Wilson Liberal West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast—Sea to Sky Country, BC

This is an affront to democracy, this is an affront to the parliamentary system, and this is an affront to the members who are giving their valuable time to represent the people right here and to the witnesses who are sitting before us. We're wasting their time.

Canadians didn't elect this Parliament—

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Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

On a point of order, that's debate, and he should know better.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Order, please.

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Liberal

Blair Wilson Liberal West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast—Sea to Sky Country, BC

—to filibuster. They elected us to get something done.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Order, please.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

Blair Wilson Liberal West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast—Sea to Sky Country, BC

Stop this filibustering. The Conservatives are doing it from one end of the Hill to the other end.

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

You're misleading this committee. You should be ashamed.

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

Order, please.

Filibustering is an age-old parliamentary trick, and it has been going on for a long time.

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Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

I'm making a valid point.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle

I'm going back to Mr. Komarnicki.

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Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

You can hardly call it filibustering when someone wants to ask witnesses before this committee some pertinent questions on relevant issues. We normally have seven-minute rounds, five-minute rounds, and two-minute rounds, and this committee is not prepared to give us the benefit of that with respect to witnesses.

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Liberal

Andrew Telegdi Liberal Kitchener—Waterloo, ON

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

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Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

This amendment that I want to speak to—