Evidence of meeting #31 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Mary-Ann Hubers  Former Acting Director, Legislation and Program Policy, Citizenship and Multiculturalism Branch, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Karen Hamilton  Counsel, Legal Services, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

5:20 p.m.

NDP

Rathika Sitsabaiesan NDP Scarborough—Rouge River, ON

A recorded vote, please...?

(Clause 19 agreed to: yeas 5; nays 4)

(On clause 20)

5:20 p.m.

NDP

Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe NDP Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

Are you calling for debate on clause 20?

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Of course.

5:20 p.m.

NDP

Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe NDP Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

I'm gradually learning my lesson. You go right ahead. You have the floor.

5:20 p.m.

NDP

Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe NDP Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

Once again, this is simply to say that the NDP opposes clause 20 because it concerns the right of appeal.

We have talked a lot about the opposition to this clause. It is not opposed solely by the NDP, but also by several witnesses such as the Canadian Council for Refugees, the Inter Clinic Immigration Working Group, the Metro Toronto Chinese and Southeast Asian Legal Clinic and the Canadian Bar Association.

As you can see, these people have good knowledge of the statutes and are opposed to this fundamental change to our judicial system.

As clause 20 concerns this right of appeal, the NDP will strongly oppose it.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Mr. Regan.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Geoff Regan Liberal Halifax West, NS

Mr. Chairman, in my view, Canadians deserve the full right of appeal with regard to citizenship. It's a very special thing, so Liberals will oppose removing this right.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Costas Menegakis Conservative Richmond Hill, ON

The government will be supporting this clause for a number of reasons. I'll try to be brief.

Clause 20 introduces a new part V.1 into the act, setting up a uniformed system for judicial review of decisions made under the act, including decisions of the ministers, citizenship judges, and the Governor in Council.

This part is broadly similar to part 1, division 8 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act. “Court” is defined in the Citizenship Act as the Federal Court. Applications for judicial review will be subject to leave of the Federal Court.

Proposed subsection 22.1(2) sets out the provisions governing an application for leave to commence a judicial review. The Federal Court's decision of whether or not to grant leave is not subject to appeal.

Proposed subsection 22.1(3) makes it clear that the minister may bring an application for judicial review in respect of decisions that are made by citizenship judges.

Proposed section 22.2 sets out the provisions governing the application for judicial review, once leave has been given.

Proposed paragraph 22.2(d) allows appeals to the Federal Court of Appeal against a decision of the Federal Court judge in a judicial review application; however, such appeals may only be made if the Federal Court judge certifies that a serious question of general importance is involved and states the question.

Proposed section 22.3 empowers the Federal Court rules committee to set rules concerning the practices and procedures governed by this part.

Lastly, proposed section 22.4 provides that the provisions under the Citizenship Act concerning judicial review applications override any inconsistent provisions in the Federal Courts Act.

We will be supporting this clause.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Ms. Sitsabaiesan, you have the floor.

5:25 p.m.

NDP

Rathika Sitsabaiesan NDP Scarborough—Rouge River, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I have to once again state that citizenship is not like a driver's licence. It shouldn't be something that is just revoked. This section that is being added to the legislation calls for application for judicial review “only with leave”. A right of appeal for citizenship revocation is very important, and this doesn't actually allow for that. That's why the NDP will not be supporting clause 20 in this bill.

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

I'm going to call the vote for clause 20.

5:25 p.m.

NDP

Rathika Sitsabaiesan NDP Scarborough—Rouge River, ON

A recorded vote, please, Mr. Chair.

(Clause 20 agreed to: yeas 5; nays 4)

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

I'm going to suspend for a minute.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

We'll go back on the record.

All those in favour of clause 21...?

5:30 p.m.

An hon. member

A recorded vote, please....

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

(Clause 21 agreed to: yeas 6; nays 3)

(Clause 22 to 25 agreed to sequentially)

(On clause 26)

Clause 26 has an amendment, and we're going to call it New Democratic Party amendment D.

Madame Blanchette-Lamothe, you have the floor.

This is new. I assume all members have a copy of this.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Costas Menegakis Conservative Richmond Hill, ON

I want clarification that you're referring to 6635226, sir.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Yes.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Costas Menegakis Conservative Richmond Hill, ON

Thank you.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Are we all clear?

You have the floor.

5:30 p.m.

NDP

Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe NDP Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

Merci.

Yes, we have an amendment. I would ask you for a second, please, Mr. Chair. I have my papers mixed up.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

We'll suspend.

5:34 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

We're back on the air. Madame Blanchette-Lamothe has some comments to make about proposed amendment NDP-D.

5:34 p.m.

NDP

Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe NDP Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

Mr. Chair, please pardon my confusion over this. This amendment makes changes to an amendment that we previously introduced and that was defeated.

For that reason, I will not be introducing this amendment. It is no longer valid, in my view, since the preceding amendment, which concerned the same subject, was defeated.

Thank you.