Evidence of meeting #35 for Natural Resources in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site.) The winning word was proposed.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Jeff Labonté  Director General, Energy Safety and Security Branch, Energy Sector, Department of Natural Resources
Tyler Cummings  Deputy Director, Frontier Lands Management Division, Petroleum Resources Branch, Department of Natural Resources
Jean François Roman  Legal Counsel, Legal Services, Department of Natural Resources
Philippe Méla  Procedural Clerk
Joanne Kellerman  General Counsel and Executive Director, Legal Services, Department of Natural Resources
Dave McCauley  Director, Uranium and Radioactive Waste Division, Electricity Resources Branch, Energy Sector, Department of Natural Resources

11:30 a.m.

NDP

Christine Moore NDP Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

Does your correction only concern the English version?

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Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Saskatoon—Rosetown—Biggar, SK

Yes.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Is it just a word missing in the English version only?

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Saskatoon—Rosetown—Biggar, SK

I can't tell you if it's missing in the French.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

The French seems to be okay is the advice from the legislative clerk.

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Saskatoon—Rosetown—Biggar, SK

Okay.

Someone suggested that I needed to amend this—

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Do you want to protect your amendment?

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Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Saskatoon—Rosetown—Biggar, SK

—to add the word “if”.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Yes.

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Before she tables it, is she changing it?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

First of all, can we have the word added that was missing in the English version of amendment G-4, which was again...? I'm sorry.

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Saskatoon—Rosetown—Biggar, SK

It's “if”.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

So it's at the start, “if”.

Yes, you moved it with the “if” in, so that's fine.

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Saskatoon—Rosetown—Biggar, SK

Yes.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

We don't have to do it that way.

Is there any further discussion on amendment G-4, with the wording that Ms. Block presented?

Yes, Ms. Block.

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Saskatoon—Rosetown—Biggar, SK

I would like to provide the rationale for it.

The convention provides for access to supplemental compensation from member countries to the convention. Wording in the bill references the minister's request for supplemental funds, not to the amount established when Canada ratifies the convention, but to the liability limit of the operator, which is also $1 billion. While this is not an issue today, because both numbers are the same today, for example, $1 billion, should the government decide to decrease the liability of the operator in the future, the minister's request for supplemental compensation will be inconsistent with the policy.

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

You've heard the discussion. Is there any further discussion on amendment G-4?

Yes, Ms. Duncan.

11:35 a.m.

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

I'm trying to follow this amendment, which is kind of peculiarly worded. You have “When”, and a big blank.

What precisely is being changed? Simply (b) under proposed subsection 71(1)?

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Saskatoon—Rosetown—Biggar, SK

The text that is in front of you is what's being changed.

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

The text in front of me says, replace with subsection “71.(1) When”, and then nothing. So you're removing everything else in section 71 and paragraph (a)?

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General Counsel and Executive Director, Legal Services, Department of Natural Resources

Joanne Kellerman

Could I assist the committee?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Go ahead, please, Ms. Kellerman.

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General Counsel and Executive Director, Legal Services, Department of Natural Resources

Joanne Kellerman

The motion is to replace the first two lines, lines 26 and 27, with the word “When” so it reads, “When a call for public funds is made under subsection 72(1) those funds are to be used to compensate...”. Then (b) says, replacing lines 30 to 32 with the words, “the damage that is suffered”. The way it would read is, “When a call for public funds is made under subsection 72(1), those funds are to be used to compensate the damage that is suffered...”.

The word “if”, in fact, is not intended to be part of the motion. That's a point of clarification.

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

It's very confusing.

June 10th, 2014 / 11:35 a.m.

General Counsel and Executive Director, Legal Services, Department of Natural Resources

Joanne Kellerman

You have to track that line by line for this to make sense.