Evidence of meeting #3 for Official Languages in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was station.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Francis Potié  Executive Director, Association de la presse francophone
François Côté  Secretary General, Alliance des radios communautaires du Canada
Simon Forgues  Development and Communications Officer, Alliance des radios communautaires du Canada
Geneviève Gazaille  Director of Communications and Government Relations, Association de la presse francophone

10:35 a.m.

An honourable member

Oh yes?

10:35 a.m.

Bloc

Richard Nadeau Bloc Gatineau, QC

Oh yes, I should tell you that. By the way, his member card should be arriving by mail soon. I am talking about the membership card for the Bloc, of course.

This is one of the factors that leads to assimilation. The federal government is not doing what it should to fight against this assimilation, aside from giving speeches. Assimilation is a terrible cancer in our communities, causing French to disappear from one census to the next. And you, you are here in order to provide solutions, but you are not given the tools you need.

I will conclude with those remarks. I do not know whether you have anything you wish to say about the interdepartmental issue or anything else. I will turn the floor over to you.

10:40 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

You have left them with 15 seconds.

10:40 a.m.

Bloc

Richard Nadeau Bloc Gatineau, QC

How generous of me!

10:40 a.m.

Executive Director, Association de la presse francophone

Francis Potié

The interdepartmental aspect is the foundation for our development. The OLSPB remains important.

I will go back to the example given by François. Regardless of where he goes knocking, there is never any funding for radio. In our case, for our development survey and marketing project, we were told to knock on the door of Canadian Heritage. That makes it difficult to achieve any progress.

10:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Thank you very much. That completes our fourth round. Two members have expressed a desire to make an intervention. Would you like to have a formal fifth round, are simply have shorter rounds?

So I will give the floor to these members. Mr. Bélanger would like to add something, and then Ms. O'Neill-Gordon would like to intervene.

10:45 a.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

I am going to ask my question, although you may have to send us the information later on.

First of all, does Canadian content apply to community radio, and if so, in what percentage?

10:45 a.m.

Secretary General, Alliance des radios communautaires du Canada

François Côté

We have to provide the same percentage.

10:45 a.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Thank you.

As far as the OLSP is concerned, Mr. Chair, I would like to make a request of our researchers. Could they uncover, for the last few years—they can use their judgment—how much money has been spent on community radio under this program?

There is an issue I would like to come back to later on: would it be appropriate to look at changing the criteria for the way the money is used under this program, such as the example given by Mr. Généreux with respect to the Internet? I know that there may be some threats involved, but perhaps there are some opportunities? Could we use the OLSP funding or consider using the program to indeed improve the quality of the equipment or modernize the equipment in our community radio stations?

Does ARC or APF have TFO as a partner? TFO is the franco-Ontarian television station that is broadcast in Ontario, Quebec, Manitoba and New Brunswick.

I would like to make a comment about Canada Post. Are we witnessing some type of purge that is going on in order to prepare for the privatization of Canada Post? This type of decision to send $15 million to the Department of Canadian Heritage would be in line with such a vision.

Finally, let's talk about the interdepartmental aspect. I believe that the legislator understood the need and amended the act in 2005, supported, at that time, by the opposition which is now in government. Unless I am mistaken, there is no evidence that the departments and agencies are all, without exception, subject to part VII of the act. Meaning that they have an obligation to provide follow-up, directly, and not to send everything over to the Department of Canadian Heritage. What I'm seeing is that we are not giving life and voice to this new Official Languages Act. That strengthens our desire, as a committee, to delve into this issue more closely.

10:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Thank you very much, Mr. Bélanger.

Now I will turn to Ms. O'Neill-Gordon.

10:45 a.m.

Conservative

Tilly O'Neill-Gordon Conservative Miramichi, NB

Good morning, and welcome. It's great to have you here with us today.

You spoke of the many new technologies and different means of communication that are now being used. We are all very much aware of that. We're all very much aware of how we turn to the Internet, probably, before turning on our local radio stations. Yet many of us still appreciate the local radio station.

I'm just wondering whether you feel you have the support of your communities and whether the relationship between the radio and the community is still a good one.

10:45 a.m.

Secretary General, Alliance des radios communautaires du Canada

François Côté

Absolutely, because a community radio station is first and foremost the station of that community. It is not just the station of one or two individuals; it is the entire community's radio station. It is the community that chooses to have a station.

So our radio stations are deeply rooted in our communities, and this symbiotic relationship grows more and more each year. It takes on more and more importance.

10:45 a.m.

Conservative

Tilly O'Neill-Gordon Conservative Miramichi, NB

Do you think more work should be done with the community in order to better sensitize the population to the community radio?

10:45 a.m.

Secretary General, Alliance des radios communautaires du Canada

François Côté

When a decision is made to start up a community radio station, it involves an extraordinary effort of mobilization and awareness raising within the community, with regard to what a community radio station is and how it will serve the community. I don't know whether it is important to educate people even more. I would say that has already been done.

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

Tilly O'Neill-Gordon Conservative Miramichi, NB

Coming from Miramichi, coming from New Brunswick, a bilingual province, I certainly know and appreciate that the work you do is very valuable. When you meet with our minister Mr. Moore, you will see that he feels the same way. Our government certainly appreciates the valuable work that you do.

Thank you.

10:50 a.m.

Secretary General, Alliance des radios communautaires du Canada

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Thank you, Ms. O'Neill-Gordon.

This morning, you received unanimous support from all members of the committee for the work that you do with regard to both written press and the media. I would say, somewhat more descriptively, that you are the canaries in our linguistic coal mines. So we encourage you to speak out loud and clear on behalf of minority languages. I join the other committee members in congratulating you.

Thank you very much.

(The meeting is adjourned).