Evidence of meeting #38 for Official Languages in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was bilingual.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Claudette Deschênes  Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Neil Yeates  Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Les Linklater  Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic and Program Policy, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic and Program Policy, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Les Linklater

Mr. Chair, in 2008 CIC put in place the “Canadian experience” class, which effectively allows foreign students and temporary foreign workers, who are able to work for at least a year in the case of foreign students, to transition to being permanent residents. Given the preponderance of francophone institutions outside of Quebec, we feel this is an excellent tool to help official language minority communities attract and retain permanent residents, as was mentioned.

Essentially, we have undertaken some marketing campaigns with all post-secondary institutions, francophone and anglophone, to raise awareness of the availability of this program. Beyond that, from consultation with the provinces and territories, we understand that under their own provincial nominee programs most have an international student stream, which allows them as well to nominate international students who are at their institutions. This is for provinces such as New Brunswick and Nova Scotia with substantial francophone populations, and Manitoba as well. Again, this is a pathway to permanent residency that international students can avail themselves of to remain in Canada permanently.

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Conservative

Tilly O'Neill-Gordon Conservative Miramichi, NB

This is an important topic to our committee, and we thank you for your work on our behalf.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Thank you very much.

Thank you, Ms. O'Neill-Gordon.

We will finish round four with Mr. Godin.

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NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

Thank you.

I talked about Prince Edward Island earlier, but what about the Yukon? Are employees at the Yukon offices bilingual?

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Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Neil Yeates

Ms. Deschênes?

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Claudette Deschênes

I am not sure.

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NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

Could we have—

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Claudette Deschênes

You could have—

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NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

The committee worked hard to prepare the report that was tabled in the House. We have already had discussions with people across the country regarding immigration to Canada. Within embassies and immigration offices, Quebec has its own offices in various countries, mainly francophone countries. As for the rest of Canada, there are no offices designated for the francophonie. In my view, this means that Prince Edward Island is at a disadvantage, since bilingual service is not offered there and that goes against our study on immigration.

If these offices are not designated bilingual, will you take into consideration the examination of that part?

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Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Neil Yeates

Yes, we can certainly look at that.

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NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

Look, it's easy. Personally, I want to see some results.

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Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Neil Yeates

We recognize that we have some challenges in that regard. If we could do something else—

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NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

If neither the PEI or the Yukon office has bilingual staff, yet we can send people with “CCC” linguistic profiles overseas...can we not respect official languages in Canada and ensure that every province has bilingual staff in its offices?

9:50 a.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Claudette Deschênes

I would just like to clarify the fact that in the Yukon and PEI offices, there are staff who can speak both official languages. However, that does not mean that the majority of people working in those offices have a “CBC” linguistic profile.

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NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

I never said anything about the majority. I talked about providing service. The agents must be able to say more than just “Hello, how are you?”, “What a beautiful day” and ”I don't speak French”.

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Claudette Deschênes

I would point out, for instance, that in the Yukon, service was available in French when the department was doing its research.

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NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

Service was available, but there were some cuts to immigration offices in the Yukon.

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Claudette Deschênes

Do you know something I don't?

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NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

I don't know. That must be confirmed.

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Claudette Deschênes

It needs to be confirmed.

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NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

Thanks to BlackBerrys, news travels fast, but we do not always hear everything.

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Claudette Deschênes

Okay. That will be confirmed.

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NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

I would like to talk about another point. I will be brief, Mr. Chair.

I don't know if you are familiar with the case of a woman from Rwanda who wanted to go to British Columbia. Her application was denied because she spoke only French. She would have been going to work in a French-speaking family. I was involved in the case and the minister was also forced to become involved before she was finally given permission.

Has that problem been resolved, or can Citizenship and Immigration still discriminate against a French-speaking person who wants to settle in British Columbia or another province apart from Quebec?

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Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Neil Yeates

I do not know.

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Claudette Deschênes

I would just like to explain that if someone wants to work with children, usually that person must have a minimum degree of comfort in the language in order to deal with emergency services, for instance, in case of an emergency. That being said—