Evidence of meeting #42 for Official Languages in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was yukon.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Francine Blais  Director, French Language Services Directorate, Government of Yukon
Pamela Hine  Deputy Minister, Department of Education, Government of Yukon
Janet Moodie  Deputy Minister and Cabinet Secretary, Executive Council Office, Government of Yukon
Patricia Living  Director, Communications and Social Marketing, Department of Health and Social Services, Government of Yukon
Harvey Brooks  Deputy Minister, Department of Economic Development, Government of Yukon
Angélique Bernard  President, Association franco-yukonnaise
Roch Nadon  Director, Cultural and Youth, Association franco-yukonnaise
Régis St-Pierre  Co-Executive Director, Association franco-yukonnaise

9:05 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Good morning, everybody. Welcome to the Standing Committee on Official Languages, meeting number 42. Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3), this is a study of the development of linguistic duality in northern Canada.

We have the pleasure of having a very important panel of witnesses this morning.

Allow me to welcome you to this extraordinary meeting of the Standing Committee on Official Languages, the first to be held in the Canadian high north since the committee was established more than 30 years ago. My colleagues from the main federal political parties and I are pleased to be here to witness the advancement and promotion of linguistic duality in the high north.

First, I would like to remind you that you have access to simultaneous interpretation equipment.

I would also like to mention to you that, as a result of the winter conditions, two committee members, Yvon Godin and Bernard Généreux, will be joining us later in the day. They will of course be able to follow the proceedings of our committee since all our conversations and exchanges will be entered in our records.

Without further ado, I would invite the representatives of the Government of Yukon to take the floor. I believe we will be hearing from Ms. Blais. I would like to thank you for helping to find the witnesses. We also have Ms. Moodie, deputy minister and Cabinet secretary, with us today. Thank you.

Thank you for being with us, Ms. Moodie.

We also have Ms. Pamela Hine, who is deputy minister of education, and Mr. Harvey Brooks, deputy minister of economic development.

Welcome to our committee.

We also have the manager of arts and cultural services from the Department of Tourism and Culture, Ms. Laurel Parry, and, lastly, the director of communications and social marketing at the Department of Health and Social Services, Ms. Patricia Living.

Without further ado, I invite you to make your opening statements. Then we will continue with a discussion with committee members.

Ms. Blais, go ahead please.

9:05 a.m.

Francine Blais Director, French Language Services Directorate, Government of Yukon

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

I would like to welcome all the members and the vice-chair to Yukon, to paradise.

In my presentation, I will outline the history of the francophone presence in Yukon and will then talk about the progress made and measures put in place.

A Francophone trader, François Xavier Mercier and his partner built the Fort Reliance trading post near the mouth of the Klondike in 1874. His efforts also resulted in the arrival of the first Oblate missionaries in the region. Francophone priests worked to develop education and health care services.

By the time of the 1898 Klondike gold rush, at the end of the 19th century, francophones were already well established in the area and newly arrived francophone professionals to Dawson and Mayo played an active role in the social and political life of these communities. However, outward migration at the end of the gold rush seriously reduced their numbers and the francophone presence in Yukon was greatly diminished until its gradual resurgence as young francophones from the rest of Canada strongly motivated to want to maintain their language worked tirelessly to win support from governments to develop services in French in Yukon.

Yukon's francophone community includes 1,245 persons who count French as their first official language. Although francophones can be found all over Yukon, by far the greatest percentage, 82%, live in Whitehorse. While francophones account for four percent of the population, over 11% of Yukoners can speak French, evidence of the growing linguistic duality in Yukon.

A strong and concerted effort on the part of the francophone community and the federal and territorial governments first led to the development, passage and gradual implementation of the Languages Act. Among other things, this act gave Yukon francophones the right to communicate with and receive services from the government in French at head or central offices. Our act in fact seems to presage the Roadmap for Canada's Linguistic Duality when it notes that the measures in this act are steps toward equality of status of English and French.

The Yukon accepts that English and French are the official languages of Canada and also accepts that measures set out in the act constitute important steps towards implementation of the equality of status of English and French in Yukon.

Now let’s talk about the development of services in French. Implementation involved extensive consultations with the francophone community and funding agreements with the federal government for the development of French language services. In 1988, the agreement between the federal and territorial governments included an agreement by the federal government to bear all costs incurred in the development, enhancement and implementation of French languages services. However, the first funding agreement did not include health services funding because certain health services were still a responsibility of the federal government and were devolved in 1993 well after the signing of the first funding agreement. Since that time, successive Yukon governments have contributed to the gradual development of health services in French despite the lack of federal funding.

However, it goes without saying that additional funding from the federal government to further develop these services would be welcomed by both the territorial government and the francophone community.

Relations between francophones and other Yukoners have been excellent. Governments, both federal and territorial, have worked with the community in various ways. To emphasize the importance of direct consultation with the francophone community, the Yukon government established the Advisory Committee on French Language Services to advise the Minister of the Executive Council Office on any matter related to the Languages Act and the implementation of government services in French.

To help guide employees in government in the implementation of French language services, several instruments have been developed: the French Language Policy, the Guidelines for Advertising, Publishing and Other Forms of Communications in French and the Guidelines for Staffing Bilingual Positions.

What is the touchstone that has been developed to measure French language services? A good service is one that is useful, that is one that meets the needs expressed by the community; is useable, that is to say is practical, accessible, consistently maintained and comparable in quality to English language services; and used by francophones free of charge. Where are the services? Well, they exist across government: court services, legislation and regulations, francophone school boards, driver's licences and counter service, bilingual social workers, advertising, forms, news releases, signs, websites, in fact everything involving communication with the public. That’s just a brief overview. I have made our activity report for 2008-2009 and 2009-2010 available to you. As you’ll see, we've done a lot in those two years.

Since 2006, the French Language Services Branch was raised to the status of a stand-alone department-like directorate reporting directly to a minister, another indication of the importance the government attaches to the delivery of French language services. Yukon has come a long way in the last 30 years in offering French-language services for the francophone community. That has meant focusing on several important areas that Canada's Roadmap identified and for which we have jurisdictional responsibility: investing in youth, improving access to services, capitalizing on economic benefits.

In terms of the support for youth, our government has supported the youth group, Espoir Jeunesse, and continues to support the Yukon francophone school board's delivery of education to francophone students. Yukon has also contributed to the economic development of the community, by investing in the francophone community centre, which opened in 1989, and in providing opportunities for francophone service deliverers to compete on services procurement.

Yukon today is more than just a land of awesome beauty and opportunity for all. It is also a place where francophones live and contribute to society by sharing their language and culture. It is also a place where they can live their life in French. We have journeyed together a great distance in the delivery of services in French. Allow me to quote from the report on Yukon francophones by the Fédération des communautés francophones et acadienne du Canada:

In Yukon, there are seven times more people who know French (alone or with English) than in 1951. Today, more than 3,545 people in the territory can speak French, representing an impressive 11.7 percent of the population. This is also an increase of 500 people over 2001. In 2006, 820 inhabitants of Yukon worked in French most often or at least regularly, representing 32.5 percent of the labour force with knowledge of French. In total, 4.3 percent of the labour force in Yukon uses French at least regularly at work.

While there is a distance to go, doing it with our federal and Franco-Yukonnais partners will make the voyage that much better.

Thank you for your attention.

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Thank you very much, Ms. Blais.

Mr. Galipeau, go ahead please.

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

Royal Galipeau Conservative Ottawa—Orléans, ON

Thank you very much.

I would simply like to clarify one point. I very much appreciated your presentation, but as it is all entered in the official record, I would like to point out that, in the sixth last paragraph, you no doubt meant 1999, not 1989.

9:15 a.m.

Director, French Language Services Directorate, Government of Yukon

Francine Blais

That's what I have in my notes. I made a mistake.

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

Royal Galipeau Conservative Ottawa—Orléans, ON

But not—

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Thank you, Mr. Galipeau.

9:15 a.m.

Director, French Language Services Directorate, Government of Yukon

Francine Blais

It was indeed 1999. Thank you.

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

That's noted.

We'll now go to the committee vice-chair, Mr. Bélanger.

9:15 a.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Thank you all for being with us today. We have three deputy ministers in our midst. That's impressive. In the Parliament of Canada, we receive them only one at a time.

I'm going to try to start with some more general considerations and continue with some more specific questions.

Has the legislative framework adopted in 1988 with regard to the French language been amended since that time?

9:15 a.m.

Director, French Language Services Directorate, Government of Yukon

Francine Blais

With regard to that framework, I believe the act cannot be amended without the federal government's consent.

9:15 a.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

All right. You say that the present act is a major step toward achieving equality of status for French and English in Yukon. Is there, somewhere in government, some sort of document providing details on the number of stages or the term of that plan for achieving equality of status?

9:15 a.m.

Director, French Language Services Directorate, Government of Yukon

Francine Blais

We're working very hard on that, but we don't have a strategic plan, as such, spread out over three or five years, for example. We're currently consulting the community. We're proceeding more on a step-by-step basis, based on the needs expressed by the francophone community through the Advisory Committee on French-Language Services.

9:15 a.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Can you tell me whether there are any challenges before the courts involving the francophone community that affect the offer of service or the status of the situation in Yukon?

9:20 a.m.

Director, French Language Services Directorate, Government of Yukon

Francine Blais

I couldn't speak at any length about that or give you an in-depth answer—

9:20 a.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

I'm not asking you to comment on the nature of those challenges, if there are any.

9:20 a.m.

Director, French Language Services Directorate, Government of Yukon

Francine Blais

The trial concerning the Yukon francophone school board has just come to an end and we're awaiting the decision.

9:20 a.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Are there any others?

9:20 a.m.

Director, French Language Services Directorate, Government of Yukon

Francine Blais

I couldn't tell you. To my knowledge, no.

9:20 a.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

All right.

Can you simply tell me about them in factual terms? I'm not talking about submissions by the community or the government. Could you talk a little about that for committee members and the people who will be following our proceedings, without prejudicing the government's position?

9:20 a.m.

Director, French Language Services Directorate, Government of Yukon

9:20 a.m.

Pamela Hine Deputy Minister, Department of Education, Government of Yukon

Good morning, and thank you for the opportunity to appear in front of the committee.

On the matter of the public schools, as you're aware, the Commission scolaire francophone du Yukon filed a suit against the Yukon government on February 18, 2009. The parties had invested significant efforts in an attempt to resolve the claim but were unsuccessful in bringing about an agreement. Following the filing of the lawsuit, the parties tried again, in good faith, to resolve the matters and avoid a trial, but the parties were unable to reach a mutually acceptable agreement. The court proceedings ended on February 3, 2011. It's unknown when the formal decision will be issued by the court.

The statement of claim is wide-reaching, but essentially I can give you a few of the items that are being considered by the judge.

They are looking for the transfer to the Commission scolaire francophone du Yukon of École Émilie-Tremblay and the parcel of land upon which the school is situated. These are currently public buildings. It's a public school system and publicly owned buildings and land.

They are asking for the authority to build a new secondary school on the EET land, the school land, which could accommodate up to 200 students. I should mention that the school currently on the site is a pre-K to 12 school.

They're looking for the capital budget to build the school, estimated at the trial to be in the range between some $15 million to $45 million, again, depending on what the outcome is going to be, and the right to manage the EET land, the schools that would be situated upon it, and the operation and maintenance budget required to manage them.

They're also looking for added human and financial resources and the transfer of the authority to the school board so that the school board becomes the employer of the director general, the school principal, the teachers, assistants, and technical support staff of the school.

I assure you that the Yukon Department of Education understands its legal obligations to support French first language education to right holders' children and to remain committed to continuing its strong support to our francophone students. Francophone students enjoy an excellent level of education and a well-equipped school that currently operates at 60% to 62% of its recommended capacity. They are enjoying strong levels of funding and student-teacher ratios that are among the lowest not only in the Yukon but in Canada.

The Yukon government believes that the level of management and control exercised by right holders in the Yukon, through the Commission scolaire--the only school board in the Yukon--meets and exceeds the legal requirements. We will continue to work with the francophone board to provide excellent French education to right holders' children. As well, the Department of Education is committed to continuing its support to the other groups of students, including French immersion students, first nation citizens, Catholic students, and students with special needs.

Thank you.

9:20 a.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

That's fine.

9:20 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Mr. Bélanger, you have a little time left.

9:20 a.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Thank you, Ms. Hine.

Could you briefly tell me when the agreement with the Government of Canada will expire?