Evidence of meeting #80 for Official Languages in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was office.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Graham Fraser  Commissioner of Official Languages, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages
Ghislaine Charlebois  Assistant Commissioner, Compliance Assurance Branch, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages
Colette Lagacé  Director, Finance and Procurement, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages
Sylvain Giguère  Assistant Commissioner, Policy and Communications Branch, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages
Nancy Premdas  Assistant Commissioner, Corporate Management Branch, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages

3:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Welcome to the 80th meeting of the Standing Committee on Official Languages. Today is Thursday, May 9, 2013. Pursuant to Standing Order 81(4), we are here to study main estimates 2013-14, with regards to the Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages.

Before we begin, I understand there's agreement from members of this committee that, in light of the fact we only have one witness today and we're only dealing with one vote on the estimates, we'll adjourn at five o'clock today. That will allow members an hour and 20 minutes to ask questions or to provide comments to the committee.

Before we give the floor to Mr. Fraser, I understand that Madame Michaud would like to have the floor.

Ms. Michaud, go ahead.

3:30 p.m.

NDP

Élaine Michaud NDP Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Thank you very much.

I would like to get some information for the committee. We asked Minister Kenney to meet with us. He said he would appear before Easter, and then he was supposed to appear in May, but we still have no set date.

Do you know when Minister Kenney would be available to appear before us?

3:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

I don't have a date at this time.

3:30 p.m.

NDP

Élaine Michaud NDP Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Okay, but are efforts being made to have him appear before the fall, ideally?

3:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

The efforts are ongoing.

3:30 p.m.

NDP

Élaine Michaud NDP Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Okay. We do need to discuss some pressing issues, so it would be nice to hear from him before we break for the summer.

3:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Okay.

3:30 p.m.

NDP

Élaine Michaud NDP Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

There is something else. Quickly, I would like to give notice of two motions.

The first motion reads as follows:

That the Committee invite the Privy Council Office to appear for a two-hour meeting about official languages and the Governor in Council appointment process before June 1, 2013.

The second motion is the following:

That the Committee hold a public meeting, as soon as possible and no later than June 1, 2013, to address concerns expressed by officers of Parliament in the letter of September 12, 2011, to the Chairman of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Official Languages regarding their independence and accountability, focusing solely on the Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages.

3:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Thank you for your two notices of motion, Ms. Michaud.

We will discuss them after the break, on Tuesday, May 21. Is that okay?

3:30 p.m.

NDP

Tyrone Benskin NDP Jeanne-Le Ber, QC

Mr. Chair, just on a point of clarification, we're aiming to finish at five o'clock, but if there are still questions that we want to ask, can we still ask those questions after that time?

3:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Certainly.

Yes. Go ahead.

3:30 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

Mr. Chair, sorry, I'm not a regular member. I just want to make sure those motions will be sent to the normal member of the committee. That's the rule.

3:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Yes. We will ensure they're distributed to members of the committee, and we will discuss and debate those motions on May 21, when we return from our constituency week.

Mr. Fraser, you have the floor.

3:30 p.m.

Graham Fraser Commissioner of Official Languages, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

I want to let you know right away that my throat is a bit sore. So, if my voice gives out, my colleagues could certainly answer any questions.

Mr. Chair and honourable members of the Standing Committee on Official Languages, I would like to thank your committee for its interest in the operations of the Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages.

As an agent of Parliament, I provide parliamentarians with unbiased advice based on objective and factual information. This is to help you hold the federal government accountable for its stewardship of the equal status of English and French in Canada.

I am accompanied today by the following people: Nancy Premdas, Assistant Commissioner, Corporate Management; Ghislaine Charlebois, Assistant Commissioner, Compliance Assurance; Sylvain Giguère, Assistant Commissioner, Policy and Communications; and Colette Lagacé, Director, Finance.

The Office of the Commissioner has a budget of $23.9 million to support it in its mandate for 2013-14. That amount includes $15.1 million in salaries, or 72% of the main budget. Our workforce consists of 163 full-time equivalents.

The expenditures planned for 2013-14 take into account the loan of $2.8 million from the Treasury Board to pay the cost of moving our offices to Gatineau. This relocation will allow us to streamline our operations and examine the possibility of sharing resources with other agents of Parliament who will be located under the same roof.

Our operations are divided into the following three program activities: protection of Canadians' language rights, promotion of linguistic duality and internal services. I suggest we look at these activities one by one.

To protect the language rights of Canadians, the Office of the Commissioner resolves complaints through investigations, conducts audits, evaluates the performance of federal institutions and intervenes in court when appropriate.

The expenditures planned for this activity are $6.5 million, which represents 27.4% of the total budget. The possible impacts of budget cuts on administrative programs and processes linked to official languages continue to preoccupy me. I will continue to observe the impacts of these budget cuts, both in Ottawa and in the regions. I will also continue to intervene, based on what is revealed by our investigations and observations.

I know that the numbers in the last census raised some concerns in a number of francophone communities across Canada. That is why we will analyze the impact of the 2011 census on bilingual services provided to official language communities by government offices across the country.

During the 2013-14 fiscal year, the Office of the Commissioner will release the results of an audit on how the government fulfils its language obligations with respect to provincial transfers.

It will not be a financial audit, but rather a review of the accountability process. The Office of the Commissioner will also publish audit follow-up reports for National Defence, Service Canada, and the Halifax airport authority. We will also begin two new audits. One will be a horizontal audit on the impacts on official languages of new service management models in a limited number of federal institutions. The other will be on Treasury Board Secretariat's role in the review of the impacts of proposed budget cuts on official languages. We will also follow up on two others: one on Air Canada, and the other on Industry Canada.

I will continue to use my authority to intervene before the courts when necessary. During the next year, I will act as joint appellant in the Thibodeau v. Air Canada case appealed to the Supreme Court. This is to ensure consistent interpretation of Air Canada's language obligations and the primacy of the Official Languages Act.

Court proceedings against CBC/Radio-Canada are ongoing, and we will be able to evaluate the next steps once the CRTC renders a decision on the renewal of CBC/Radio-Canada's licences—specifically the licence for CBEF Windsor.

In 2012-13, the Office of the Commissioner received 505 complaints from people who claimed that their language rights had been infringed. Of those complaints, 415 were admissible. To exercise our investigative powers in the most efficient way possible, we will conduct a survey of the complainants and federal institutions involved. Moreover, since February 2013, the Office of the Commissioner has been providing the possibility of filing a complaint online.

We have also implemented a strategy to reduce the number of files in arrears. On April 1, 2012, there were 624 complaint files that had been ongoing for more than a year, 437 of which involved a single incident. As of March 31, 2013, only 69 of these files were still active.

Expenditures linked to promotion of linguistic duality are $6.7 million, which represents 28% of the total budget. To promote linguistic duality, the Office of the Commissioner communicates regularly with parliamentarians, official language minority communities, federal institutions, and the Canadian public.

Canadians fully benefit from our research, our studies, the distribution of our information products and our exchanges with many key stakeholders. Since September, these exchanges have been able to take place on social media. The Office of the Commissioner now manages a Facebook page and a Twitter feed to promote the conversation with Canadians.

Over the next year, the Office of the Commissioner will communicate regularly with federal institutions that anticipate making investments under the new road map. This will be done to better understand the expected results on the vitality of communities and the teaching of official languages.

With the 150th anniversary of Confederation in 2017, I will follow up on recommendations from my last annual report, aimed at raising the government’s profile when it comes to linguistic duality in Canadian society.

Furthermore, from 2013 to 2015, we will carry out an information campaign on the rights of the public who transit in airports.

Four studies will be published this year. A study on the bilingual capacity of the judiciary of superior courts—conducted in collaboration with the French Language Services Commissioner of Ontario and the Commissioner of Official Languages for New Brunswick—will be completed shortly. That study will be a thorough examination of the federal judiciary appointment process and the language training offered to superior court judges.

We will also finalize a study on language training in the federal public service and another on English-speaking seniors in Quebec. In addition, we're working on a study on Governor in Council appointments. Lastly, we will look at a few potential study projects such as a survey of Canadians on bilingualism, the possibilities of learning a second language in colleges and CEGEPs, and a literature review of the effects of social media on our official languages.

It is also important to encourage the Canadian public to celebrate linguistic duality during various events across the country. For example, this summer, my staff will be on hand throughout the Canada Games in Sherbrooke to promote Canada's linguistic duality to thousands of visitors.

This effort is part of a strategy to work with organizers of major events to ensure that they include Canada's linguistic duality in their planning.

Our third program activity allows the Office of the Commissioner to bring together resources that support the organization as a whole, including asset management, finance, and human resources management. This activity is allocated a budget of $6.7 million, which is 28.2% of our total budget. This amount does not include the cost of technological updates, which were $1.1 million for this year, or the cost of moving to 30 Victoria, which was $2.8 million. Together these represent $3.9 million or 16.4% of our total budget for 2013-14.

These services, which are essential to any organization, ensure that taxpayers' dollars are used efficiently and transparently.

With that in mind, we have invested in new technological tools to optimize resources. For example, employees now rely on video and teleconferences to reduce the need for travel, increase productivity and lower operational costs significantly.

Thank you for your attention. I would now be pleased to answer your questions.

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Thank you, Mr. Fraser.

Ms. Michaud, go ahead.

3:40 p.m.

NDP

Élaine Michaud NDP Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

I want to thank each and every one of you for joining us today. It is always a pleasure to have you with us.

I will begin with some questions about an issue that was studied by the Office of the Commissioner. I am talking about the maritime search and rescue centre in Quebec City. That was in the news again today.

Commissioner, you personally expressed concern on a number of occasions over the closing of the maritime search and rescue centre in Quebec City, and over the fact that the Trenton and Halifax centres still don't have enough bilingual employees.

In early April, your staff followed up on the implementation of your recommendations. I think that you can already tell us whether the Department of Fisheries and Oceans and the Canadian Coast Guard have fully implemented your recommendations. Have they?

3:40 p.m.

Commissioner of Official Languages, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages

Graham Fraser

The follow-up has not yet been completed—

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

Jacques Gourde Conservative Lotbinière—Chutes-de-la-Chaudière, QC

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Mr. Gourde, go ahead.

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

Jacques Gourde Conservative Lotbinière—Chutes-de-la-Chaudière, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

The goal of today's meeting is to study the public accounts. Are we straying from our agenda if we talk about any departmental issues?

3:40 p.m.

A voice

This is in the news.

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

Jacques Gourde Conservative Lotbinière—Chutes-de-la-Chaudière, QC

I would like the members of the government party and the opposition parties to focus on the public accounts of the Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages. We are straying from today's agenda.

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Okay.

Yes, Madame Michaud.

3:40 p.m.

NDP

Élaine Michaud NDP Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Mr. Chair, allow me to say this.

The commissioner himself mentioned in his presentation some of the studies the Office of the Commissioner has carried out. My question is in the vein of what has already been said here. Mr. Gourde will have an opportunity to speak when his turn comes.

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Thank you, Ms. Michaud and Mr. Gourde.

Ms. Michaud has a great deal of leeway in deciding what questions she wants to ask, as long as they are relevant to the work done by the Commissioner of Official Languages.

If the questions are in any way related to official languages, I'm going to allow them. Make sure it's tied in some way to the official languages policy of the government or the office's spending, and I'll let the questions stand.

Go ahead, Madame Michaud.