Evidence of meeting #14 for Official Languages in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was young.

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9:55 a.m.

Liberal

Lise St-Denis Liberal Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC

When the notice of motion was given last week, everyone thought it was very funny, as that was an indirect way to point out that you did not have a majority and that the opposition would have won had the vote been held at that time.

I will not make any comments beyond that, as I do not want to express direct opposition. However, it seems to me that any decisions regarding trips should be made in a broader context. We should determine which communities we would benefit the most from visiting.

Of course, I would like to go to Yukon, as it's very nice up there and I have never been.

9:55 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Go ahead, Mr. Williamson.

9:55 a.m.

Conservative

John Williamson Conservative New Brunswick Southwest, NB

I'm a little confused. I thought there was an NDP line in the sand that no travel was going to be proposed for committee in light of a disagreement on another committee. I'm not sure what's happened to this line in the sand, or if in fact this is the one exception to the NDP rule.

9:55 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Thank you, Mr. Williamson.

Go ahead, Mr. Godin.

9:55 a.m.

NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

Yes, the line will be there until the Conservative government makes a decision about travelling on the study of the bill on unfair election changes.

This motion is just to put it on record. They will make the decision when the trip can be done, if it passes. It's just that this committee has the sole responsibility to do things. After that when it comes to the House leader, etc., they'll make the decision when the trip will take place and all of that. That doesn't take away that preparation for the future, hoping that the Conservative government becomes reasonable one day, and when it becomes reasonable, it'll say that Canadians have the right to meet their parliamentary committee on the election bill, because it's an important bill.

But it doesn't stop us putting in the bank a motion saying this is what we'd like to see for the future. We didn't say we want to travel next week. We'll say we've put it there, and we can make that decision, with all respect, Mr. Williamson, and then at that time, if it passes, I hope that one day parliamentarians will be able to do their job on everything, without taking away the most democratic right of parliamentarians and parties that Canadians and all parties should have input when you change the law on electoral reform.

It has never been seen in the history of our country where a government wants to change the electoral law by majority and without opening it to all parties. We're supposed to be one of the most democratic countries in the world, and right at home we're doing the opposite. That is pretty bad. I support 100% at this time that nobody travel, but at the same time I repeat that in the committee we still can propose trips for the future.

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

9:55 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Thank you, Mr. Godin.

Mr. Chisu, you have the floor.

9:55 a.m.

Conservative

Corneliu Chisu Conservative Pickering—Scarborough East, ON

Mr. Chair, I don't know when we are supposed to finish this study, but I know that in the second week of September, there is the Arctic meeting in Whitehorse, so every member of Parliament can attend that meeting. I think you can use the travel points there. It is an opportunity to participate on the Arctic, and also to have interaction with the French community in Yukon. I don't know what the timing is to finish the study, but in this way we would be able to save money and save also the purpose of this meeting.

10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

The timing—

10 a.m.

Conservative

Corneliu Chisu Conservative Pickering—Scarborough East, ON

I'm just telling you about this opportunity.

10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

The study is going to take a number of weeks. We have approximately 50 different witnesses, so it will take at least 12 meetings for the study to be completed, to answer your question.

10 a.m.

Conservative

Corneliu Chisu Conservative Pickering—Scarborough East, ON

In September they are not sitting. It is after the summer break.

10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Unless we get more witnesses, I expect the study will be completed before summer.

10 a.m.

Conservative

Corneliu Chisu Conservative Pickering—Scarborough East, ON

This is an opportunity, just in case.

10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Yes.

Is there any further debate on the motion?

(Motion negatived)

Thank you very much, Madame Perreault, for presenting and speaking to the motion.

I understand we have a budget for the study. Would someone be prepared to move the motion for the budget for the study?

Go ahead, Mr. Williamson.

10 a.m.

Conservative

John Williamson Conservative New Brunswick Southwest, NB

I'd be more than happy to move the budget motion on the study.

10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Thank you very much, Mr. Williamson.

We have a proposed budget for the study of the economic situation of Canada's minority linguistic communities. The budget is for a total amount of $27,600. I'd just like committee members to know that this is a high estimate for the budget. I don't anticipate that we'll use more than about $15,000, but because our witness list is so big, we decided to err on the side of caution.

Is there any debate on this budget?

Monsieur Godin.

10 a.m.

NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

Mr. Chair, a while ago, we talked about groups of witnesses. We said that, instead of inviting them all, we would try to have one representative per group. I don't recall whether we were talking about RDEE.

10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

There were a number of groups that we were going to group together, yes.

10 a.m.

NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

So we will group them together. For instance, we would hear from all of them at the same time during a two-hour meeting.

10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Yes.

10 a.m.

NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

So they wouldn't be removed from our witness list, but they would be invited to appear at the same time.

10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Exactly.

10 a.m.

NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

Okay, thanks.

10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Ms. St-Denis, go ahead.

10 a.m.

Liberal

Lise St-Denis Liberal Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC

In the budget request, it says that a certain amount of money is earmarked for a 20-person visit to an unspecified location.

Oh no, sorry, these are witness expenditures.