Evidence of meeting #44 for Official Languages in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was immigrants.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Yves Saint-Germain  Director, Language Program Policy, Planning and Accountability, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Maia Welbourne  Director General, Strategic Policy and Planning, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Stefanie Beck  Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Clerk of the Committee  David Chandonnet

3:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Welcome to the 44th meeting of the Standing Committee on Official Languages. Today is Tuesday, March 31, 2015.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108, today, we are going to begin by studying Citizenship and Immigration Canada's commitment to part VII of the Official Languages Act. We will then study the Government of Canada programs designed to promote francophone immigration into Canada's official language minority communities.

The Minister of Citizenship and Immigration, the Honourable Chris Alexander, is here with us today, accompanied by three officials from his department: Ms. Welbourne, Ms. Beck and Mr. Saint-Germain.

I will now turn the time over to the Minister of Citizenship and Immigration, the Honourable Chris Alexander.

3:30 p.m.

Ajax—Pickering Ontario

Conservative

Chris Alexander ConservativeMinister of Citizenship and Immigration

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you to the committee for inviting me and officials from my department here.

I appreciate your keen interest in the role of and the importance of strengthening official languages within our immigration system.

Our government believes—and it is a deep, long-standing, and great Canadian tradition to believe—that our linguistic duality is a source of immeasurable economic and social benefit for all Canadians. It is a big part of who we are.

First of all, I'd like solemnly to affirm before all of you that we are committed to applying all of the reforms we've made to our immigration programs to strengthen both of our official languages in terms of quality, presence, skills, and proficiency by means of our immigration system. We have a lot to show for these efforts in recent years. That commitment to excellence in Canada's official languages is there for all to see over these last nine years of reforms.

If you look at that record, you will find that language plays a very important, even central, role in these reforms. There is no doubt that immigration helps us ensure that the bilingual personality of our country is preserved and represented faithfully all across the country. We know that linguistic capability in French, in English, and preferably in both is essential to economic success in this country. We see it in the workers who come here. We see it in the students who come here. We see it obviously in the immigrants we are so proud to welcome in record numbers every year.

We operate with the conviction that francophone immigration is not simply a priority just within Quebec. We want to strengthen and preserve Canada's bilingual personality, and we also want to expand linguistic duality all across the country, because the francophone presence is a national reality in all provinces and territories.

For these and other reasons, I was proud to help launch Canada's second annual Francophone Immigration Week. I also participated in the first edition. This was an initiative of the Fédération des communautés francophones et acadienne du Canada and the francophone immigration networks, with more than 100 community activities organized from coast to coast. It was made possible through financial support from my department, and the participation of many partners.

We joined with francophones across the country, particularly francophone immigrants, in celebrating their unique culture, which continues to flourish and to define Canada's national identity. lt was also an opportunity to officially recognize the important contribution that immigration and newcomers make to Canada's linguistic duality.

More recently, earlier this month, I addressed participants of the Journée de réflexion sur l'immigration francophone, which was also organized by the FCFA with support from CIC. This event, held annually since 2007, is a unique opportunity for stakeholders to discuss the current state of immigration but also to think about how we can innovate, improve our programs, attract more francophones and strengthen our francophone immigration networks. Without this opportunity for refection, we would not have made as much progress as we have, especially since 2007.

We are strongly dedicated to sustaining the vitality and diversity of our francophone communities outside of Quebec through our immigration program, particularly in the context of the roadmap for official languages, in which francophone migration and immigration play a key role.

As you all know, immigration has always been central to the history of Canada, from the days of New France, and even in the history of our first nations, who have their own stories of migration to and within this continent.

Migration and immigration continue to play a decisive role in fostering the development of our official language minority communities. According to Statistics Canada, there are more than one million people in Canadian communities outside Quebec reporting French as their mother tongue.

In 2013 we welcomed a total of 3,358 francophone immigrants outside Quebec through our immigration program. We believe it's critical that this number continue to grow.

Let us be clear about the outlook for francophone immigration. I just received the exact figures from the department. From 1980 to 2005, one year before our government took office, there was only one year in which more than 2,500 francophone immigrants settled outside Quebec. In fact, that number was often below 1,000. Unfortunately, that is how things were when the Liberals were in power and during Conservative Prime Minister Mulroney's time in office.

However, since 2005, and particularly since 2006, the number of francophone immigrants has never fallen below 2,500. In 2013, we reached the number that I just mentioned: 3,358. That is why our government has set the goal of increasing the number of francophone immigrants who settle outside Quebec to more than 4% of all economic immigrants by 2018. We recognize that increased immigration from French-speaking countries is essential to achieve this goal.

In 2013, we unveiled a new roadmap for official languages, which identified immigration as one of three pillars to ensure the future vitality of Canada's official languages. Under the roadmap, the government will invest nearly $150 million in official language initiatives related to immigration over the next five years. One important focus is promoting the benefits of fluency in Canada's official languages and investing in language training for newcomers settling in official language minority communities.

Newcomers with limited language abilities are more likely to earn less, be unemployed or live in poverty. I must also admit, ladies and gentlemen, that we are not satisfied with our immigration system's capacity to determine the French-language skills of newcomers who complete their applications in English. Bilingual people do not always report their language abilities. We invite them and encourage them to do so, but not all of them do it.

The number of francophones arriving in Canada could be higher than we realize. We are going to do what it takes to find out the proficiency of all of our newcomers in both official languages so that we know where we stand in terms of reaching our goal of 4% for French-speaking economic immigrants by 2018.

Most of the funds under the roadmap—$120 million—are being invested to help economic class newcomers develop the language skills they need to integrate into Canadian society. I have to say that, in general, strengthening the language proficiency criteria for all of our immigration programs has improved the language proficiency of all our immigrants. We hope that this trend will continue in Quebec and the other provinces and territories of Canada. That being said, we are prepared to help those whose language skills are not as strong when they arrive to improve.

Our government is also working to help French-speaking immigrants settle into their minority communities outside Quebec.

We fund 13 francophone immigration networks that work with many partners across the country. They are already receiving enough funding to welcome up to 5,000 French-speaking immigrants across the country. That is much more than two, three or even four years ago.

The new express entry system, which was launched on January 1 and which supports our economic plan, will make it possible to manage applications for permanent residence in Canada's key economic immigration programs. It has great potential to contribute to the economic vitality of francophone minority communities outside Quebec.

We just extended new invitations to our candidates for immigration. A total of 2.5% of them are francophone, which is much higher than in the past. We are hopeful that this number will gradually improve, but we also need your help in promoting francophone immigration to areas of Canada outside Quebec. We need to remind people throughout the world that it is possible to live and grow in French in all of our provinces and territories.

Not everyone in France or even Canada knows that 30% of Yukon residents are francophone. People also do not necessarily know how many francophones work in French, even in Vancouver. They are probably even less familiar with the history of Saint-Boniface and Moncton and the strength of our francophone minority communities. In fact, French speakers form the majority in certain areas outside Quebec, whether it is in eastern or northern Ontario or the Ottawa region.

Destination Canada, a program that gives us an opportunity to promote the strength of our labour market and our immigration programs, has been a phenomenal success. The program is not limited exclusively to Paris any more. It is also being delivered in Belgium and Tunisia, and we have also broadened our participation in order to offer similar job fairs in Dakar, Senegal.

It is worth noting that young Belgian, French and Swiss citizens can apply to travel and work in Canada under the International Experience Canada, or IEC, youth-mobility initiative. Canada's IEC agreement with France is, in fact, the largest of our 32 youth-mobility agreements. I would like to reiterate that an increasing number of young French nationals who participate in this program want to stay in Canada permanently to go to school and work.

A total of 13,850 visas were available last year for French citizens hoping to come to Canada under the working holiday, young professionals, and international co-op streams of the IEC.

In a spirit of reciprocity, we truly hope that a similar number of Canadians will participate in this program in France.

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I would like to thank you once again for inviting me to appear before you. I am ready to answer the committee members' questions.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Thank you, Mr. Minister.

We have 45 minutes for questions and comments.

Mr. Nicholls, you have the floor.

3:45 p.m.

NDP

Jamie Nicholls NDP Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

Thank you Mr. Chair. Thank you, Mr. Minister.

Mr. Minister, I would like to know if you are familiar with the provisions of the Official Languages Act.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

Chris Alexander Conservative Ajax—Pickering, ON

Yes, I am very familiar with them.

3:45 p.m.

NDP

Jamie Nicholls NDP Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

Do you know that you have responsibilities under this act?

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

Chris Alexander Conservative Ajax—Pickering, ON

Yes. I worked as a federal public servant for 18 years and I was elected in 2011. I have been working in both official languages all that time and I am well aware of my obligations under that act.

3:45 p.m.

NDP

Jamie Nicholls NDP Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

Okay.

Here is a pop quiz. I am going to ask you to finish the following sentence.

Under the Official Languages Act, federal services must be...

The answer that I was looking for is that services must be of equal quality to those offered to the majority.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

Chris Alexander Conservative Ajax—Pickering, ON

Okay.

3:45 p.m.

NDP

Jamie Nicholls NDP Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

I mention that because the organizations that work with official language minority communities often say that we are far from meeting our goals in terms of percentage, funding and consultation.

During your speech, you did not mention the act. I would like to remind you that this is not just a tradition in our country. It is also a legal issue. You have responsibilities under the act. Every week should be Francophone Immigration Week.

Mr. Fraser, the Commissioner of Official Languages, and Mr. Boileau, the Ontario French Languages Services Commissioner, the watchdog in this regard, made an initial recommendation in their November 2014 report and that is to:

rely principally on Francophone organizations as providers of services and support to French-speaking newcomers in the context of any calls for proposals.

According to the witnesses who appeared before this committee, these organizations are underfunded. Do you have anything to say to them about that? Will funding increase in the coming years?

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

Chris Alexander Conservative Ajax—Pickering, ON

First, I feel responsible for the Official Languages Act every day and every week. We are constantly working to meet the objectives of that act.

Second, I said in the beginning that official languages are part of our reality. Our reality includes our laws. I am well aware of the status of official languages and the legislative measures that give our official languages that status.

Third, speaking of official languages, I think that nobody at this table and no political party in Canada has the right to be arrogant toward others by claiming that the minister who is currently speaking in both official languages is not aware of official languages.

Fourth, we doubled the number of francophone immigration networks in this country. We increased funding for immigration by $30 million under the roadmap for official languages for a total of nearly $150 million. Our immigration networks give us the capacity to accommodate 5,000 francophone immigrants across the country. We were far from reaching that number in 2013 and 2014, but our government has the intention and ambition to do so. What is more, we have out-performed any other previous government in this regard.

We must not forget that, unlike other portfolios, the responsibility for immigration to Canada is shared with the Province of Quebec, which is responsible for its own programs. These programs are offered to most francophone immigrants who come here. We are very proud to work with the Government of Quebec and we are very proud to focus on francophone immigration. Making sure that both official languages grow and remain strong is a priority for this government. Our performance on every level reflects that.

3:50 p.m.

NDP

Jamie Nicholls NDP Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

You have had nine years in office to make improvements. Frankly, I think that the Liberal regime of the 1990s is a poor reference. I will move on to my next question.

Last week, the FCFA said that the department does not have a coherent strategy that is in line with the entire immigration continuum, meaning promotion of communities, selection, recruitment, settlement, integration and so on.

What does your department intend to do about developing and implementing such a strategy? For example, what do you intend to do to deal with CIC's significant shortcomings with regard to promoting French-speaking and Acadian communities as a destination of choice for potential francophone immigrants?

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Chris Alexander Conservative Ajax—Pickering, ON

What shortcomings are you talking about?

3:50 p.m.

NDP

Jamie Nicholls NDP Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

I can show that there are shortcomings with regard to funding. You mentioned Destination Canada. When you click on the link for Alberta or British Columbia on the Destination Canada website, there is no information at all in French. The Programme d’immigration francophone de la Colombie-Britannique is a website created by the province or francophone organizations in British Columbia—

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Chris Alexander Conservative Ajax—Pickering, ON

The mistake was to not have the website translated.

3:50 p.m.

NDP

Jamie Nicholls NDP Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

There was a lack of consultation.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Chris Alexander Conservative Ajax—Pickering, ON

...on British Columbia's part, in French.

3:50 p.m.

NDP

Jamie Nicholls NDP Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

You did not do enough consultation with organizations that work with OLMCs. You did not listen to those organizations, which are saying that they have been underfunded for years now. They are unable to provide services in French to those asking for them.

There is a problem within your department. There are deficiencies, and it isn't up to me to tell you where they are. It is up to you to listen.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Chris Alexander Conservative Ajax—Pickering, ON

It is your duty to identify the deficiencies. You are a member of the opposition, and that is part of your job.

3:50 p.m.

NDP

Jamie Nicholls NDP Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

Yes, and I gave you some examples. Now it is up to you to respond to them.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Chris Alexander Conservative Ajax—Pickering, ON

Okay.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Mr. Nicholls, have you finished?

3:50 p.m.

NDP

Jamie Nicholls NDP Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

Yes.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Mr. Alexander, go ahead.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Chris Alexander Conservative Ajax—Pickering, ON

We cannot take responsibility every time the provinces or municipalities fail to provide services in French outside Quebec. We promote francophone minority communities. The federal government provides services. We have created francophone immigration networks that includes over 200 organizations across the country.

For the first time, there are networks of universities, colleges, community and economic organisations and employers in every province and territory that are there to welcome more francophone immigrants across the country. That did not exist a few years ago. We are investing $150 million, which is five times more than in the past, to improve language training and immigration networks and to increase the number of francophone immigrants. We have delivered real results in this area.