Evidence of meeting #13 for Public Accounts in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was steering.

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5:05 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP David Christopherson

Okay.

Therefore, I will accept that as an amendment; it's in order. It is now before us.

You have the floor, if you wish to speak further.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

Gerry Byrne Liberal Humber—St. Barbe—Baie Verte, NL

Sorry.

This is the Wednesday...?

5:05 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP David Christopherson

Who was here for that one?

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

Gerry Byrne Liberal Humber—St. Barbe—Baie Verte, NL

I thought we were talking about the....

You were making a motion to study—

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Conservative

Daryl Kramp Conservative Prince Edward—Hastings, ON

I was making a motion for the study of chapter 3, “Internal Audit”.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

Gerry Byrne Liberal Humber—St. Barbe—Baie Verte, NL

I'm sorry. I thought we were at the—

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Daryl Kramp Conservative Prince Edward—Hastings, ON

No, not at the report stage on that.

5:05 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP David Christopherson

It's okay. I think we're all right.

So it's not applicable to this file. I probably should have caught that. I apologize.

Therefore, since that matter is technically out of order, we have Mr. Kramp's original motion, which is in order and is still before the committee.

The floor is open.

Hearing no further discussion, all in favour of the motion, please indicate by raising your hand.

(Motion agreed to)

The motion is carried and so ordered.

Mr. Kramp.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Daryl Kramp Conservative Prince Edward—Hastings, ON

Mr. Chair, I have another motion that I could present or we could take it to steering committee. If we feel that we have unanimous consent to move forward with a feeling of goodwill as far as the tabling of an agenda, I'd be prepared to present that at this time, with one modification. Obviously, we would have to change a witness schedule due to the Auditor General's lack of availability then. We had him scheduled for November 28 and we could change it to Wednesday, November 23. Interchanging those two dates would be a suggestion.

I could present the proposed amendment at this point, but I do think, if we were to get into a discussion on this issue, one of two things: we should either go into committee and discuss it, unless there's consent on this committee, or we should go into steering committee. I'll let the chair deliberate for a bit, walk through that, and then we'll see where we go.

5:05 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP David Christopherson

Are you comfortable if we make that change as part of your recommendation because the 28th won't work?

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Daryl Kramp Conservative Prince Edward—Hastings, ON

That's correct.

5:05 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP David Christopherson

Rather than go through the mechanics of an amendment, as it's your motion, we'll just switch that for purposes of discussion. How's that?

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Daryl Kramp Conservative Prince Edward—Hastings, ON

Sure.

5:05 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP David Christopherson

It can be amended later, but let's move to that.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Daryl Kramp Conservative Prince Edward—Hastings, ON

Absolutely.

5:05 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP David Christopherson

Okay.

So the change becomes your actual recommendation.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Daryl Kramp Conservative Prince Edward—Hastings, ON

Thank you.

5:05 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP David Christopherson

Okay.

The clerk has advised me that we weren't able to circulate it because it's not in both languages and that it needs to be read into the record. You're going to take a moment, if you wouldn't mind.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Daryl Kramp Conservative Prince Edward—Hastings, ON

Then I suggest we go in camera.

5:05 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP David Christopherson

The motion to go in camera is in order. It's not debatable.

All those in favour of going in camera, please indicate.

(Motion agreed to)

The motion is carried and so ordered. We are moving in camera.

[Proceedings continue in camera]