Evidence of meeting #113 for Public Accounts in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was cbsa.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Nicole Foster  Director, Global Artificial Intelligence and Canada Public Policy, Amazon Web Services, Inc.
Mike Abbott  Managing Partner, Markets & Industry, BDO Canada
John Weigelt  Chief Technology Officer, Microsoft Canada Inc.
Nick Markou  Head of Professional Services, Canada Public Sector, Amazon Web Services, Inc.
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Hilary Smyth

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Certainly. Okay.

Moving on to BDO, I have similar types of questions.

Did you work with GC Strategies?

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Managing Partner, Markets & Industry, BDO Canada

Mike Abbott

We had a working relationship through our Lixar division. We acquired Lixar in March 2020.

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Did you work with GC Strategies, sir?

3:55 p.m.

Managing Partner, Markets & Industry, BDO Canada

Mike Abbott

Our Lixar division did—

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Yes.

3:55 p.m.

Managing Partner, Markets & Industry, BDO Canada

Mike Abbott

—and so we did.

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

How many contracts...?

3:55 p.m.

Managing Partner, Markets & Industry, BDO Canada

Mike Abbott

On ArriveCAN, we had one.

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Yes.

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Managing Partner, Markets & Industry, BDO Canada

Mike Abbott

Overall I would have to come back and give you the specific numbers.

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Can you do that for us?

3:55 p.m.

Managing Partner, Markets & Industry, BDO Canada

Mike Abbott

I can do that for you.

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Okay.

How about Dalian and Coradix? Did you work with them?

3:55 p.m.

Managing Partner, Markets & Industry, BDO Canada

Mike Abbott

With Coradix, I did not. With Dalian for ArriveCAN, I did not.

I'll come back with a specific number. It's in the range of three to four outside the scope of ArriveCAN.

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

That is three or four contracts?

3:55 p.m.

Managing Partner, Markets & Industry, BDO Canada

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

You were the subcontractor, and Dalian was the contractor to a department of the Government of Canada?

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Managing Partner, Markets & Industry, BDO Canada

Mike Abbott

That's correct.

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Do you have a ballpark figure in terms of the dollar value?

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Managing Partner, Markets & Industry, BDO Canada

Mike Abbott

I'll give you a ballpark, a rough order of magnitude, which was about $800,000. It could have crept up to $1 million, so I'll give that as the rough order of magnitude for the contracts collectively.

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Okay.

Is time permitting?

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Williamson

You have time for one quick one.

4 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

To Mr. Abbott and Ms. Foster, were you directed by any government official to specifically work with Dalian and/or GC Strategies?

4 p.m.

Managing Partner, Markets & Industry, BDO Canada

4 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Ms. Foster.