Evidence of meeting #73 for Science and Research in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was systems.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Patrice Simon  Director General, Wildlife and Landscape Sciences, Department of the Environment
Dominique Henri  Research Scientist, Department of the Environment
Cheryl-Ann Johnson  Researcher, Wildlife Ecologist, Department of the Environment
Danika Littlechild  Assistant Professor, Carleton University, As an Individual
Heather Sayine-Crawford  Director, Wildlife Management Division, Government of the Northwest Territories
Tammy Steinwand-Deschambeault  Director, Department of Culture and Lands Protection, Tlicho Government

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Lloyd Longfield

Yes, we can pause for a couple of minutes while it comes around.

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

Corey Tochor Conservative Saskatoon—University, SK

As we wait—

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Lloyd Longfield

No. We're just pausing for a moment....

All right. Go ahead.

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

Corey Tochor Conservative Saskatoon—University, SK

On a point of clarification, because we're in committee business, we don't need to officially have a translation. What I've read out is what I'd like the vote to be on. It's not a procedural requirement that we need to have a translation.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Lloyd Longfield

No, but if a member wants it in writing in front of him—it's a longer motion and we haven't seen it yet—I think it's a fair request for a member to look at it.

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

Corey Tochor Conservative Saskatoon—University, SK

You might think it's fair—

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Lloyd Longfield

Yes, I do.

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

Corey Tochor Conservative Saskatoon—University, SK

—but by the book, we're in committee business, and we need to vote on this today.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Lloyd Longfield

We don't need to vote today. It's up to the committee when that vote happens.

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

Corey Tochor Conservative Saskatoon—University, SK

I don't know why you're hiding.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Lloyd Longfield

I'm not hiding.

February 13th, 2024 / 1:10 p.m.

Conservative

Corey Tochor Conservative Saskatoon—University, SK

This is an attempt to, once again, stall. We've asked why Huawei has not been on this list, and there's been no explanation.

We are the science committee. We should be tasked with looking at why our post-secondary institutions are still partnering with Huawei. It's been years now that we've known the problems with that company and the ties to the Beijing government. We know the questions that have been raised about some of the research that has been done as early as late last year with that entity.

We are asking for just a two-hour study. I do not understand what the government is trying to hide. These answers are going to come out. It would be best to come out in a proper committee such as this one, a committee that is looking at our post-secondary institutions and the corruption that's been promulgated by actors from Beijing.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Lloyd Longfield

Is there more discussion on this, or do you want to go to a vote?

Go ahead, Ms. Kayabaga.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

Arielle Kayabaga Liberal London West, ON

I would like to move to adjourn debate.

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

Corey Tochor Conservative Saskatoon—University, SK

She can't do that in committee business.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Lloyd Longfield

Yes, you can adjourn.

There's a non-debatable motion to adjourn debate. Let's test the committee on that.

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

Corey Tochor Conservative Saskatoon—University, SK

Just for clarification, Lloyd, we are not voting on this. We are hiding again. The cover-up continues.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Lloyd Longfield

No, no, we're voting on adjourning debate. It's a non-debatable motion.

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

Corey Tochor Conservative Saskatoon—University, SK

No, this is a cover-up. We have 20 more minutes of committee time. Why you guys are hiding from Huawei is beyond me.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

Arielle Kayabaga Liberal London West, ON

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Lloyd Longfield

Yes, Ms. Kayabaga.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

Arielle Kayabaga Liberal London West, ON

I believe a motion to adjourn debate is non-debatable.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Lloyd Longfield

That's correct.

Let's go to the vote on adjourning debate.

(Motion negatived: nays 6; yeas 5)

The debate continues.

1:15 p.m.

Conservative

Corey Tochor Conservative Saskatoon—University, SK

Call the vote on the question.

1:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Lloyd Longfield

The debate continues.

Go ahead, Mr. Turnbull.