Evidence of meeting #58 for Status of Women in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

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Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Michelle Tittley

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Yes, it is fine.

Ms. Demers--

would you like to withdraw your amendment and...?

3:50 p.m.

Bloc

Nicole Demers Bloc Laval, QC

My pleasure, Madam Chair.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Thank you very much.

Ms. Deschamps, your amendment includes the words “during and after”. Agreed.

Do you want to speak?

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Bruce Stanton Conservative Simcoe North, ON

I have one other item.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Sure.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Bruce Stanton Conservative Simcoe North, ON

Perhaps this is out of order, but do you want to get concurrence on the amendment as now suggested by Madame Deschamps?

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Yes.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Bruce Stanton Conservative Simcoe North, ON

Okay, then I have an item after that.

Thank you.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Okay.

Yes, Ms. Keeper.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

Tina Keeper Liberal Churchill, MB

Is what's being proposed “during and after the games”?

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Yes, to curtail trafficking. Let's read it.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

Tina Keeper Liberal Churchill, MB

No, I don't need to read it.

I wasn't part of this committee in hearing the witnesses, but my sense is that what is being proposed here is to have a sort of model developed, in terms of a crisis response in a situation that is unusual, extraordinary, and this requires extraordinary measures.

I assume that your report has recommendations for the country and day-to-day life, in terms of these issues, but it seems to me the specific of this is that it would be in response to something extraordinary.

My concern would be that anything that sort of takes it out of the timing of the event sort of waters it down. What you're trying to develop is a crisis response, and you have to sort of stay within that framework of time. That's the way it seems to me.

So I think the wording should just stay.

Thank you.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Ms. Keeper, you make lots of sense because you are right. If you take a step back—the chair is commenting, but it's her right to comment—you're right. A crisis response is put in place, especially because during an Olympics there will be a higher blip in the human trafficking, and then it will slow down.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Joy Smith Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

I'm very happy with that.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Madame Deschamps, did you understand what Ms. Keeper was trying to say?

3:50 p.m.

Bloc

Johanne Deschamps Bloc Laurentides—Labelle, QC

Oui.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

So would you like to withdraw your motion?

3:50 p.m.

Bloc

Johanne Deschamps Bloc Laurentides—Labelle, QC

No.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

No, okay.

Oui.

3:50 p.m.

Bloc

Johanne Deschamps Bloc Laurentides—Labelle, QC

I think the motion moved by Ms. Neville and amended by Mrs. Smith is a positive gesture. Comes a time when one needs a significant gesture to go forward with a plan. This plan is included in the recommendations in the report.

If we have to wait until the second coming before we implement a plan, we could wait for a long time. Let us take this opportunity of an event where it is said...

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Can I suggest that you have misunderstood us?

3:55 p.m.

Bloc

Johanne Deschamps Bloc Laurentides—Labelle, QC

Yes.

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

The intent of Ms. Keeper's intervention was that human trafficking is there with the Olympics. We know, we understand, we prepared a report, etc., and we made recommendations to the government.

Generally, in an Olympic environment there is higher activity, so according to the amended plan, we need interdisciplinary intervention from the government and other agencies. The Olympic plan would be far stricter than what we want on a day-to-day basis.

So what Ms. Keeper is suggesting is that if we stick with the original motion, as amended by Ms. Smith, we will be able to have a plan. The plan would be in place during the Olympics, and the amount of resources required to monitor it after the Olympics may be slightly different from the resources required to do it during the Olympics. So the plan will be there.

We're recommending that the plan be there, but the intensity of the plan will be slightly different from the Olympics to normal day-to-day business.

3:55 p.m.

Bloc

Johanne Deschamps Bloc Laurentides—Labelle, QC

How would the motion read?

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

It will read the same.

You have Mrs. Smith's motion.

And it reads.... What am I reading the motion for?

Ms. Smith, could you reread your motion, please?

Ms. Deschamps, the motion is this.