Evidence of meeting #2 for Veterans Affairs in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Royal Galipeau

Mr. Karygiannis.

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Chair, if I may, I have absolutely no problem with this motion, but I think we need at least 15 to 20 minutes to move from here to there. We need more time as a committee, so we might want to meet at either 9:30 or 9 o'clock in order to facilitate our business and then join our colleagues.

12:25 p.m.

NDP

Peter Stoffer NDP Sackville—Eastern Shore, NS

Whatever you wish.

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Royal Galipeau

Mr. Gill.

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

Parm Gill Conservative Brampton—Springdale, ON

I have absolutely no issue with that, assuming we can find a room and we're able to sort out committee business before heading for the ceremony.

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Royal Galipeau

Mr. Hawn.

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

Laurie Hawn Conservative Edmonton Centre, AB

I have the same point. By 11 o'clock we have to be there.

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Royal Galipeau

Yes, we'd have to be there by five minutes to 11.

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

Laurie Hawn Conservative Edmonton Centre, AB

Well, a quarter to 11 would be better.

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Royal Galipeau

This is one place where punctuality is most important.

Mr. Karygiannis.

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Chair, going back to our next meeting, are we starting in camera?

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Royal Galipeau

We start in camera, as already agreed, to deal with committee business.

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

If I'm not mistaken, Mr. Gill's motion, which we discussed, was something Mr. Gill wanted originally—I may be out of tune here, and if I am, correct me—discussed in camera as routine proceedings, and then he wanted to bring it out of camera in order to have a recorded vote. I could be going the wrong way, but a call is a call. I'm wondering, if we go in camera and we come out of camera to discuss the other....

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Royal Galipeau

Routine proceedings are that committee business is de facto in camera without discussion.

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Chair, regarding the motion we just voted on, the parliamentary secretary wanted to have it as routine proceedings until forced to—

12:25 p.m.

An hon. member

No, it was a previous motion.

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

For the motion we just voted on, you asked for unanimous consent.

The parliamentary secretary originally wanted to have—

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Royal Galipeau

Mr. Karygiannis, one of the things I try to do as chair of this committee is to move on to the next item of discussion after we've had a vote. To discuss the past after the vote has been taken, frankly, just drags this all out.

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

Jim Karygiannis Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Chair, right now we learn about our mistakes as we move forward.

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Royal Galipeau

What I try to do is not to draw too much attention to the mistakes I make. I think it might be to everybody's advantage not to draw attention to the mistakes of the chair, because there will be times when I'll make serious ones. As a rule, I try to be a servant of the committee, without partisanship and with impartiality. I would like to establish, as a routine, that after we've had a vote we move on to the next item.

Mr. Stoffer.

12:25 p.m.

NDP

Peter Stoffer NDP Sackville—Eastern Shore, NS

Mr. Chair, I apologize to you. I should have asked you to seek unanimous consent to discuss this motion before I said anything. So I'm asking you if you, as the chair, could seek unanimous consent to discuss this motion and forgo the 48-hour notice. If I'm not mistaken, that's what has to happen.

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Royal Galipeau

This is Mr. Gill's motion on the ceremony.

12:30 p.m.

NDP

Peter Stoffer NDP Sackville—Eastern Shore, NS

The one on the ceremony, yes.

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Royal Galipeau

Fair enough. Is there unanimous consent?

There is.

Mr. Gill.

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Parm Gill Conservative Brampton—Springdale, ON

That's exactly what my point was going to be. Thank you, Mr. Stoffer, for bringing that up.