Veterans Affairs Committee on Feb. 26th, 2024

[Blake Richards, Conservative, Banff—Airdrie, AB]

Chair, I haven't quoted to you Bosc and Gagnon yet.

[The Chair, Liberal, Emmanuel Dubourg]

You are saying that you have a motion, Mr. Desilets has one and now we have a new one.

[Blake Richards, Conservative, Banff—Airdrie, AB]

Chair, you need to allow me to finish because—

[Lisa Hepfner, Liberal, Hamilton Mountain, ON]

No, you don't.

[Blake Richards, Conservative, Banff—Airdrie, AB]

—there is a point of order and you haven't allowed me to make the point.

The point is—

[The Chair, Liberal, Emmanuel Dubourg]

Please go back to your specific point.

[Blake Richards, Conservative, Banff—Airdrie, AB]

One portion of this motion is substantially different from those two things I just read—the Bloc amendment and the Conservative motion—and it is the Liberal amendment, which was previously defeated.

[Lisa Hepfner, Liberal, Hamilton Mountain, ON]

That's debate; it's not a point of order.

Chair, he's talking over you. Where's the decorum?

[Blake Richards, Conservative, Banff—Airdrie, AB]

Therefore, based on Bosc and Gagnon in chapter 20, I would say that this portion of the motion should be inadmissible based on the principle—

[The Chair, Liberal, Emmanuel Dubourg]

I understand your point, Mr. Richards. We—

[Blake Richards, Conservative, Banff—Airdrie, AB]

Let me read Bosc and Gagnon.

[The Chair, Liberal, Emmanuel Dubourg]

We have witnesses today—

[Blake Richards, Conservative, Banff—Airdrie, AB]

Yes, but I have a point of order, Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, Emmanuel Dubourg]

I know.

[Blake Richards, Conservative, Banff—Airdrie, AB]

Let me make the point of order.

[The Chair, Liberal, Emmanuel Dubourg]

I understand the basis of your point of order.

[Blake Richards, Conservative, Banff—Airdrie, AB]

You can't rule until you've heard it, Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, Emmanuel Dubourg]

That's why I'll give you one more minute to complete—

[Blake Richards, Conservative, Banff—Airdrie, AB]

I need 20 seconds, Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, Emmanuel Dubourg]

You have 20 seconds to conclude, please.

[Blake Richards, Conservative, Banff—Airdrie, AB]

Bosc and Gagnon, in chapter 20, indicates, “A motion that is the same in substance as one already decided in the same session is inadmissible”. A portion of this is from an amendment moved, and that should extend to an amendment, as previous chairs have in fact ruled.

Subparagraph (b)(iii) is exactly the same in content as an amendment that was previously defeated by this committee, and I would therefore rule that subparagraph (b)(iii) is inadmissible.

[The Chair, Liberal, Emmanuel Dubourg]

Okay, thank you so much.

I have Ms. Blaney.

Please, if you could, be quick.

[Rachel Blaney, NDP, North Island—Powell River, BC]

Absolutely I can be.

[The Chair, Liberal, Emmanuel Dubourg]

I will come back with my decision regarding that intervention.

[Rachel Blaney, NDP, North Island—Powell River, BC]

Thank you so much, Chair.

Again, I just want to note to everybody that this was just a notice of motion. Mr. Richards has complained a lot about not being able to get this done. What I thought I would do is bring together all the motions and, hopefully having representation from every party, move it forward.

I'll leave it at that, Chair. I hope we can get to the witnesses.

Thank you again for allowing me this time.