Evidence of meeting #85 for Veterans Affairs in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was vote.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Malachie Azémar

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

I call the meeting to order.

Welcome to meeting number 85 of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Veterans Affairs.

Today is supposed to be our last meeting on the study of transition to civilian life. I know that we're going to have more votes, so first of all, because it's 5:15, I would like to know if I have unanimous consent to go until 7:15.

5:15 p.m.

Bloc

Luc Desilets Bloc Rivière-des-Mille-Îles, QC

I can't stay until 7:15 p.m.

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

All right.

How long can you stay?

5:15 p.m.

Bloc

Luc Desilets Bloc Rivière-des-Mille-Îles, QC

I have to attend an event at the French embassy.

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

All right.

Before we hear from the witnesses, then, I have a suggestion. Given the time, I suggest we go right to the first panel.

After the opening remarks, we're going to have six minutes each to ask questions. After that, we're going to go to the second panel until 6:30.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

Mr. Chair, before we go to witnesses, I'd move that we resume debate on my motion regarding the mission in Afghanistan.

When I say that, I mean it so that hopefully we can just go right to a vote on that motion, deal with it and then go to the witnesses.

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

Please let me finish the introduction and I'll give you the mic right away.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

I just moved it.

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

As I said, there is procedure, as you know. I have to go to a vote right away, but let me open the meeting and you're going to do it again.

Thank you.

Today's meeting is taking place in a hybrid format pursuant to the Standing Orders.

When you are speaking, please do not get too close to the mike while wearing your earpiece. This creates feedback, and can be detrimental to the interpreters. Please keep this in mind when you are speaking.

Quickly, I want to welcome Vance Badawey, who is filling in for Sean Casey today.

Also, members of the committee, I would like to tell you that today is the last day with our assistant clerk, Madam Geneviève Desjardins. I would like to say thank you to Ms. Desjardins for being with us.

Mr. Malachie Azémar is going to stay with us at the committee.

Now, before I introduce the witnesses, Mr. Richards, please go ahead.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

Thanks, Mr. Chair.

I want to make this quick. I move that we resume debate on my motion regarding the national monument to the mission in Afghanistan.

I want to be clear that my hope is that we don't have to have any debate at all. We can move right to a vote, deal with it and go straight to our witnesses.

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

Great.

Let me make sure that I have to go right to a vote.

This is a dilatory motion.

I'm sorry, Ms. Blaney, I have to go to a vote right away because of this.

First of all, do I have unanimous consent?

We would like to go to a vote. The clerk will take the vote.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

Just to be clear, are we now voting on the motion?

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

No, we are now voting to resume debate.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

I understood you had unanimous consent to resume debate and you were going to move right to the motion.

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

No, I don't have unanimous consent.

Let's have a vote on resuming debate, please.

(Motion agreed to: yeas 6; nays 5)

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

Thank you.

We have to resume debate on Mr. Richards' motion.

However, I have to tell you that in the last meeting, Ms. Blaney only tabled a motion. That motion was on notice. After reviewing the tape—

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

Mr. Chair, I have a point of order.

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

Excuse me. Please let me finish.

After watching the video, I realized that Mr. Richards' point of order isn't a valid point of order because Ms. Blaney merely read out her motion. It was not debated. She just gave notice of her motion.

As I understand it, we just voted to resume debate, but we can't have debate on something we don't have on the table, because—

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

Mr. Chair, I have a point of order.

5:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

Yes, I'm going to give you the mic—

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

We're resuming debate on my motion.

5:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

Yes. However, let me say something.

Ms. Blaney came with a notice of motion.

You raised a point of order, but you can't do so because the motion had not been moved.

That's why—

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

It's understood.

5:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

You understand. Okay.

Now you have the mic. Yes, I will listen to you.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

I would ask that we call the question, because I have nothing more to say, and—