House of Commons Hansard #227 of the 35th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was punishment.

Topics

Fisheries
Oral Question Period

2:50 p.m.

The Speaker

I would ask the hon. member to please put his question.

Fisheries
Oral Question Period

2:50 p.m.

Reform

Mike Scott Skeena, BC

Can the minister tell us why the fishermen of Atlantic Canada are faced with a massive tax increase because he does not have the courage to make the cuts that need to be made?

Fisheries
Oral Question Period

2:50 p.m.

Vancouver South
B.C.

Liberal

Herb Dhaliwal Parliamentary Secretary to Minister of Fisheries and Oceans

Mr. Speaker, first of all, the hon. member should know that fees have not been looked at since 1981. There has been no fee increase since 1981.

Fisheries
Oral Question Period

2:50 p.m.

Reform

Randy White Fraser Valley West, BC

It is a tax.

Fisheries
Oral Question Period

2:50 p.m.

Liberal

Herb Dhaliwal Vancouver South, BC

If they would listen, I will give them some statistics.

The average value of the catch from 1990 to 1993 was $320,000 for an eight-week fishery. In 1995 the same fishers averaged more than $1 million in landings in the midshore crab fishery. For someone who is making $1 million in landings, a $16,000 fee is perfectly reasonable under the circumstances.

It is the Reform side of the House that is always talking about user fees.

Fisheries
Oral Question Period

2:55 p.m.

Some hon. members

Order.

Fisheries
Oral Question Period

2:55 p.m.

Liberal

Herb Dhaliwal Vancouver South, BC

This is a fair fee and it is reasonable. I can assure-

Fisheries
Oral Question Period

2:55 p.m.

The Speaker

Colleagues, you leave your Speaker with a dilemma. We have questions asked and answers being given and yet I find it at times, as I am sure you must, difficult to hear the answers.

I would appeal to all of you, my colleagues, to remember that we should be civil with one another and at least give the opportunity for an answer to be as complete as it can be. I would ask you to please do that in question period.

Unemployment Insurance
Oral Question Period

2:55 p.m.

Bloc

Francine Lalonde Mercier, QC

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Human Resources Development. Last spring, the Minister of Human Resources Development stated on several occasions that at least $1.6 billion in new UI cuts would be announced this fall.

Does the minister confirm that he has decided not to table his reform proposal until after the referendum, to hide from Quebecers the fact that they will have to absorb 40 per cent of the new cuts, or $605 million?

Unemployment Insurance
Oral Question Period

2:55 p.m.

Winnipeg South Centre
Manitoba

Liberal

Lloyd Axworthy Minister of Human Resources Development and Minister of Western Economic Diversification

Mr. Speaker, I can confirm that for the past year we have been working very hard with a number of Canadians across the country to develop a new program of employment creation where we can have a system that will give real support, real resources to people to get back into the employment market, to get jobs, to establish a real sense of being able to meet a lot of the new changes taking place.

We are working very carefully with a number of the major stakeholders, a number of partners, a number of people who have become involved. We are still working on refining that. When that proposal is ready we will certainly be prepared to present it to Parliament. That would be very good news, not only for the people of Canada but in Quebec, because it will give them real hope about getting a job.

Unemployment Insurance
Oral Question Period

2:55 p.m.

Bloc

Francine Lalonde Mercier, QC

That is right, Mr. Speaker, and that is why we want sovereignty. The minister talks about job creation, but there has been no net job creation in Canada for the past eight months.

Does the minister realize that, in the absence of net job creation, only these UI cuts, which push the unemployed toward social assistance, can restore the UI fund and give the appearance of reducing the deficit?

Unemployment Insurance
Oral Question Period

2:55 p.m.

Winnipeg South Centre
Manitoba

Liberal

Lloyd Axworthy Minister of Human Resources Development and Minister of Western Economic Diversification

Mr. Speaker, unfortunately the hon. member does not deal in the realm of facts. She knows full well that since the government has come into power we have created over 455,000 jobs, in the province of Quebec alone 120,000 full time jobs, 70 per cent of them manufacturing, which are good well paying jobs.

As a direct result of that, in the month of August there was a 13 per cent decline in the welfare rate in the province of Quebec. It shows our programs are beginning to work.

The Environment
Oral Question Period

2:55 p.m.

Reform

Paul Forseth New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of the Environment.

This past summer $12 million was spent on a failed attempt to raise the Irving Whale barge off the coast of P.E.I. Officials are now saying they need to rethink the lifting of the barge because of onboard PCB contaminants.

Why did the minister go ahead with the project, knowing full well from years before that PCBs were on board?

The Environment
Oral Question Period

2:55 p.m.

Hamilton East
Ontario

Liberal

Sheila Copps Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of the Environment

Mr. Speaker, the presence of PCBs on board makes it that much more critical that the Irving Whale be lifted.

The Environment
Oral Question Period

2:55 p.m.

Reform

Paul Forseth New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

Mr. Speaker, according to a December 1992 study submitted by Marex International Limited to the Canadian Coast Guard, the heating fluid on board the Irving Whale was Monsanto MGS, a trade name for PCBs.

Why did the minister clearly ignore this study before embarking on such an expensive adventure thereby bringing about a court injunction? Twelve million dollars spent and it is still on the bottom of the sea.