House of Commons Hansard #29 of the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was prices.

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Opposition Motion—Food Taxation Members debate food affordability and rising grocery prices, with Conservatives arguing that Liberal policies, including industrial carbon taxes, inflation, and packaging taxes, are increasing costs. They highlight soaring food bank use and higher Canadian food inflation compared to the US. Liberals counter that global factors and climate change contribute to prices, while their government implements social programs, tax cuts, and housing initiatives to improve affordability and support farmers. The Bloc criticizes both sides for simplistic solutions, calling for increased senior benefits and addressing grocery chain competition. 59400 words, 7 hours in 2 segments: 1 2.

Statements by Members

Question Period

The Conservatives heavily criticize the Liberal government's reckless spending and exploding deficits, which they link to skyrocketing grocery prices and food inflation. They demand an end to taxes on food and call for the Prime Minister to fire the Public Safety Minister over lost 600 foreign criminals, a failed gun buyback program, and inaction against international organized crime, also urging reform of the bail system.
The Liberals focus on presenting a generational budget to build the strongest economy in the G7, while defending investments in the school nutrition program and dental care. They highlight the gun buyback program, enhanced border security, and reforms for Canada Post's viability.
The Bloc condemns the Canada Post reform for reducing services for seniors, people with disabilities, and rural Quebeckers. They also demand the government make Hells Angels patches illegal to combat organized crime, contrasting it with Bill C-9.
The NDP criticizes job losses and the government's failure to renew the home retrofit program or invest in green jobs.

Adjournment Debates

Federal Bail Reform Andrew Lawton criticizes Liberal bail policies as being soft on crime, citing repeat offenders being released. Jacques Ramsay defends the government's actions, blaming the provinces for issues in the justice system, and promises stricter bail and sentencing measures. Alex Ruff presses for a timeline.
Federal Procurement and Spending Kelly Block questions why Canadians get so little for the taxes they pay, citing GC Strategies and cost overruns. Jacques Ramsay says the government is committed to fairness and transparency in procurement, and has barred GC Strategies from contracts for seven years. Block says it's the same old pattern. Ramsay says the Auditor General is now satisfied.
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Foreign AffairsRoutine Proceedings

10 a.m.

Ottawa—Vanier—Gloucester Ontario

Liberal

Mona Fortier LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Foreign Affairs

Mr. Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 32(2) and consistent with the policy on the tabling of treaties in Parliament, I have the honour to table, in both official languages, the treaties entitled “Agreement on the Establishment of the International Vaccine Institute”, done at New York on October 28, 1996, as amended as of November 16, 2022; “Agreement between Canada and the Republic of Poland for Co-operation in the Peaceful Uses of Nuclear Energy”, done at Warsaw on January 28, 2025; and “Agreement between the Government of Canada and the Government of Japan on the Security of Information”, done at Tokyo on July 8, 2025.

Bill C-10 Commissioner for Modern Treaty Implementation ActRoutine Proceedings

10 a.m.

Northwest Territories Northwest Territories

Liberal

Rebecca Alty LiberalMinister of Crown-Indigenous Relations

moved for leave to introduce Bill C-10, An Act respecting the Commissioner for Modern Treaty Implementation.

(Motions deemed adopted, bill read the first time and printed)

Interparliamentary DelegationsRoutine Proceedings

10 a.m.

Don Valley West Ontario

Liberal

Rob Oliphant LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Foreign Affairs

Mr. Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), I have the honour to present to the House, in both official languages, the following reports of the Canadian Group of the Inter-Parliamentary Union with respect to its participation in the following events: the annual parliamentary hearing at the United Nations, “Putting an end to conflicts: Prescriptions for a peaceful future”, at the United Nations, New York, New York, United States of America, from February 8 to 9, 2024; the 148th IPU assembly and related meetings, Geneva, Switzerland, from March 23 to 27, 2024; the parliamentary forum at the UN high-level political forum on sustainable development, New York, New York, United States of America, on July 16, 2024; the 10th IPU Global Conference of Young Parliamentarians, Yerevan, Armenia, from September 12 to 14, 2024; the 149th IPU assembly and related meetings in Geneva, Switzerland, from October 13 to 17, 2024; the expert consultation on “Parliamentary engagement in digital policy”, Geneva, Switzerland, on October 18, 2024; the second meeting of the preparatory committee of the sixth World Conference of Speakers of Parliament, Geneva, Switzerland, on October 18, 2024; the annual parliamentary hearing at the United Nations on “Scaling up action for the Sustainable Development Goals: Finance, Institutions, and Politics”, New York, New York, United States of America, from February 13 to 14, 2025; the parliamentary meeting on the occasion of the 69th session of the Commission on the Status of Women, New York, New York, United States of America, on March 11, 2025; the first Global Conference of Women Parliamentarians, Mexico City, Mexico, from March 14 to 16, 2025; and finally, the 150th IPU assembly and related meetings, Tashkent, Uzbekistan, from April 5 to 9, 2025. It is a very busy association.

Questions on the Order PaperRoutine Proceedings

10:05 a.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, I would ask that all questions be allowed to stand.

Questions on the Order PaperRoutine Proceedings

10:05 a.m.

The Speaker

Is it agreed?

Questions on the Order PaperRoutine Proceedings

10:05 a.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

Opposition Motion—Food TaxationBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:05 a.m.

Conservative

John Barlow Conservative Foothills, AB

moved:

That, given that the Prime Minister said Canadians would judge him by the cost at the grocery store, and that,

(i) food inflation is 70% above the Bank of Canada's target,

(ii) food prices are up 40% since the Liberals took power,

(iii) Daily Bread Food Bank expects 4 million visits to its food banks in 2025,

(iv) food bank use in Canada is up by 142% since 2015,

the House call on the Liberal Prime Minister to stop taxing food by eliminating:

(a) the industrial carbon tax on fertilizer and farm equipment;

(b) the inflation tax (money-printing deficits);

(c) carbon tax two (the so-called clean fuel standard); and

(d) the food packaging tax (plastic ban and packaging requirements).

Mr. Speaker, I will be splitting my time with the hon. member for Middlesex—London.

It is important that we have an opportunity to rise today to speak about a very important issue that I know all of us are hearing about from our constituents: affordability and the affordability crisis, which is no more acute than with food. The Prime Minister proclaimed to Canadians, almost on his first day after the election, that Canadians should judge him by the price of food at the grocery store shelves. These were his words, his promise. Therefore, it is his failure.

They are the same old Liberals. In fact, his predecessor Justin Trudeau, in October 2023, also made a very similar proclamation. He said that he would stabilize food prices by Thanksgiving. In fact, the current finance minister said the exact same thing. He said, “I have secured initial commitments from the top five grocers to take concrete actions to stabilize food prices in Canada” and that we would see that by Thanksgiving.

None of those things happened. In fact, since that proclamation and the proclamation of the new Prime Minister, food prices are up more than 6%. In August, food inflation surpassed overall inflation by 84%. Since August, food prices are up 3.5%. It is the same old Liberals, the same old promises, the same old broken promises. It is another bait and switch by the Liberals.

Canadians have gotten exactly what they voted for. Canadians are now facing a crisis, a crisis that hits them where it hurts them the most: in their ability to feed their families. Families across Canada are being squeezed at the grocery store, in housing costs, in rent and when they try to heat and house themselves.

Just as they did in the previous Liberal government, all that the Liberals in the current Liberal government can do is give excuses, saying there is a global recession, that this is out of their control and that this is happening everywhere else around the world. That is simply not true. When the last Liberal prime minister made the same promise only a couple of years ago, at that time food inflation in Canada was rising 37% higher than it was in the United States. In fact, it is now worse. Under the new Prime Minister, food inflation in Canada is 50% higher than it is in the United States.

The Prime Minister cannot blame retaliatory tariffs for the higher costs of produce and food in Canada, because he is elbows down. He quietly removed the retaliatory tariffs during the election and then removed additional ones earlier in the summer. This international businessman who is going to get deals done with elbows up and who is going to fight for Canadians has quickly and quietly been elbows down, and in the meantime, Canadians are the ones paying the price.

When we talk about these numbers, there are very real consequences that real Canadians are feeling. We talk about food inflation and higher costs, but what this comes down to is that 61% of Canadians are feeling food insecure. That means more than half of Canadian families do not know where their next meal is coming from. They do not know if they will be able to feed their families the next day or at the next meal. As a result of that, they are making very difficult choices, not only at the grocery store shelf but when they are doing their household budgets. Households do budgets, something the Liberal government has never quite gotten around to doing. It has been more than 18 months, and still there has been no budget.

Opposition Motion—Food TaxationBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:05 a.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Coming soon.

Opposition Motion—Food TaxationBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:05 a.m.

Conservative

John Barlow Conservative Foothills, AB

Mr. Speaker, the budget is coming soon. He says it like he is proud of it.

The Liberals will have perhaps a $100-billion deficit, as much as three times higher than that of the last Liberal government, when the then finance minister made a big scene and quit because she could not handle these types of deficits. Ironically, she is quitting again. Maybe the deficit is that much worse, and once again she cannot stand beside it.

Among households with an income of under $50,000, 73% are worried they will not be able to afford groceries if this trend of higher food prices continues.

Food prices are higher. Between March and June, beef went up 33%, canned soup went up 26%, canned tuna went up 19%, potatoes went up 16%, oranges went up 12% and whole chickens went up 11%. These are very real consequences of bad Liberal policies and broken promises. When taxes continue to be added on for those who produce the food, those who truck the food and those who process, manufacture and sell the food, what is going to happen? Canadians are the ones who will pay those higher prices, and that is exactly what is happening. Food prices are up nearly 40% since the Liberal government was elected 10 years ago. That is the record the Prime Minister has to abide by.

The new food price index report will come out in a month or two, and we will see exactly what is going on, but already, “Canada's Food Price Report 2025” predicted that we will see food prices increase this year by 5%. We are right on track for that type of increase. As a result of that, Canadians spent $800 more on groceries this year than they did the previous year. Those numbers could go up again next year. Again, there are very real consequences to mismanagement and fiscal ineptitude.

According to Food Banks Canada, in a new report that came out earlier this summer, more than a quarter of Canadians are now experiencing food insecurity. It gave the Liberal government an F grade. For those making $75,000 or under, 57% of their income is now being spent on essentials, such as groceries, utilities and transportation. According to the food bank report, 25% of households are struggling to afford food, which is up from 18% in 2023. The poverty rate rose for the third consecutive year, and the official poverty rate was 10%, increasing 38% since 2023. About 40% of Canadians are feeling worse off this year than they did the year before.

Neil Hetherington, the CEO of one of Canada's largest food banks, said the Toronto-based Daily Bread Food Bank will see four million visitors in 2025. That is double the visitors the food bank served two years ago. We should let that sink in. As a result of the affordability crisis caused by Liberal fiscal mismanagement, four million Canadians are using food banks, and that is only in the Daily Bread Food Bank in the Toronto area. That does not include food banks across this country. B.C. food banks reported that they will be seeing more than 225,000 monthly visits, up 15% since 2023. About one-third of B.C. food bank users are children, which accounts for more than 70,000 visits.

Today, Canadians simply cannot afford food, and they are now resorting to breaking the law. As we saw yesterday in a CTV News report, a Waterloo region farmer has now raised the alarm about the incredible increase of thefts from his apple orchard. He said that 500 pounds of apples from his orchard have been stolen. He himself has caught 250 pounds of stolen goods on a number of occasions, with families coming to the orchard just trying to feed themselves.

I am sure today we will hear a number of excuses from the Liberals about why this is not their fault, despite policies that they have implemented, such as a tariff on fertilizer that is having an impact on Canadian farmers, an industrial carbon tax, and taxes on manufacturing and food production. All of these things are having an impact. In fact, net income for farmers fell by $3.3 billion in 2024, the largest net decrease in income for Canadian farmers since 2018.

Yesterday, the Minister of Jobs and Families said the past predicts the future, and that is exactly what we are seeing. The Prime Minister promised Canadians he would be judged by prices at the grocery store. Judgment has been rendered. Those were his words, his promise and his failure to Canadians.

Opposition Motion—Food TaxationBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:15 a.m.

Marc-Aurèle-Fortin Québec

Liberal

Carlos Leitão LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Industry

Mr. Speaker, the colleague from the other side talked a lot about fiscal mismanagement. I wonder if he could inform the House, if he knows, what Canada's net debt-to-GDP ratio is.

Opposition Motion—Food TaxationBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:15 a.m.

Conservative

John Barlow Conservative Foothills, AB

Mr. Speaker, I like it when the Liberals try to protect themselves with numbers they can fudge at any time. They are trying to lecture Canadians by telling them that they have never had it so good and that their fiscal position is great. I would ask the Liberal member to go to the grocery stores in his constituency and see what the response is if he tells Canadians and his constituents that they have never had it so good, that they should not be worried about beef going up 33%, apples going up 24% and coffee going up 22%.

Opposition Motion—Food TaxationBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:15 a.m.

Bloc

Yves Perron Bloc Berthier—Maskinongé, QC

Mr. Speaker, I thank the member for Foothills for his speech this morning. I have a great deal of respect for my colleague, and I quite enjoy working with him. He is an intelligent and eloquent man with whom one can hold a discussion and work constructively in committee.

However, I am a bit disappointed in the motion moved this morning. Once again, the Conservatives raised a real problem. About 95% of my colleague's speech was on the mark, but in the end, he once again finished it up with carbon tax slogans. I thought we were past that.

I clearly remember opposition days that I took part in with my colleague, whom I appreciate, as I said. At that time, I told my colleague that the carbon tax had no impact on grocery prices and that the carbon tax increased prices by only 0.01%. He stood up and said that, no, the carbon tax was responsible.

Now that the carbon tax no longer exists in English Canada, can my colleague explain why grocery prices there have not gone down? Here is where we see that these are just slogans.

Opposition Motion—Food TaxationBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:15 a.m.

Conservative

John Barlow Conservative Foothills, AB

Mr. Speaker, I too certainly respect my colleague from the Bloc and his passion for Canadian agriculture.

Food prices have not come down because the Liberals have not eliminated all the taxes they put on food production. Yes, they eliminated the consumer carbon tax. Canadians are very welcome for the work we did to force the Liberal government to do that. There is no way it would have eliminated that tax if not for the pressure put on it by the Conservatives.

I would say this to my Bloc colleague: The Liberals have not removed the industrial carbon tax. They are moving ahead with the P2 plastics ban. They are moving ahead with front-of-pack labelling. They have maintained the tariff on fertilizer imported into Canada. All of these things are having an impact on the price of food, from the farm gate to the grocery store shelf.

Opposition Motion—Food TaxationBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:15 a.m.

Conservative

Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC

Mr. Speaker, I thank my hon. colleague, who has done an incredible job on this file.

He was doing his intervention and rattling off numbers on Canadians who are desperate and cannot afford to put food on their table; all the while, the Liberals were heckling and laughing at the situation. As a matter of fact, as he mentioned, food insecurity is up 128%. The Retail Council of Canada reported that retailers lost $9.1 billion in 2024 alone because Canadians could not afford to put food on their plate and resorted to stealing to try to feed their families.

I want to ask my hon. colleague, why do the Liberals continue to think that they know best and have a tone-deaf response when Canadians are really suffering under the government?

Opposition Motion—Food TaxationBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:20 a.m.

Conservative

John Barlow Conservative Foothills, AB

Mr. Speaker, that is a great question. The “let them eat cake” attitude from the Liberals is what is frustrating Canadians. They say that the debt-to-GDP ratio is at 47% and that Canadians should be thrilled with that. The fact is that 60% of Canadians are food insecure. Of Canadian families, 60% do not know where their next meal is coming from. There are four million Canadians around the greater Toronto area alone who are going to food banks. They are being forced to feed their families at the food bank.

Those are the facts. These are the things Conservatives are focused on, not the massive deficit spending the Liberal government is focused on to enrich its friends.

Opposition Motion—Food TaxationBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:20 a.m.

Conservative

Lianne Rood Conservative Middlesex—London, ON

Mr. Speaker, it is an honour to be here in this place representing the good people of Middlesex—London.

As this is my first speech since coming back for my third term as a member of Parliament, I would like to take a moment to express my gratitude to those who helped on my most recent campaign. First and foremost, I thank the people of Middlesex—London for putting their trust in me to be in this place on their behalf. They have sent a clear message to Ottawa that our diverse rural and urban communities want accountability and change in Ottawa. I will not let them down, and I will be that voice of reason for common sense as I work diligently as their representative.

To my amazing campaign team, who worked faithfully, day in and day out, keeping everything running smoothly, I want to thank Jordon Wood, Dalton Holloway, Tony Circelli, Evan Dunnigan, Tayler Fipke, Anna Rood, Yvonne Hundey and Kim Heathcote. I would also like to thank all those folks who volunteered in some way on my campaign. There are way too many to name as there were hundreds of volunteers. It means so much to me to have their support.

I would like to take a second to thank my parents, Theo and Diane Rood; my brother, Jeremy; and my niece, Anna Rood. I am so grateful for their love and support, day in and day out, and for their dedication to my campaign. I want to thank my dad especially for taking the time to make sure that signs were put up in all 3,000 square kilometres of the riding. Everyone loved mom's home-cooked meals and having her in the campaign office. I want to thank Anna for going out in rain, snow and sunshine to knock on all those doors for all those weeks. I want to thank Jeremy for always being there for me for moral support, which is really more like keeping me in line, even though he could not be there because he was out fighting forest fires in Saskatchewan. I thank him for his support.

Now, since the good people of Middlesex—London brought me here to hold the Liberal government to account, let us talk about their atrocious record on food affordability in Canada. This issue has an impact on many families across Middlesex—London, a sensation they feel every single time they step through those automatic doors at the grocery store, the relentless squeeze of food inflation and the cost of living crisis that the Liberal government still refuses to confront honestly.

Back in May, when asked how Canadians could hold him accountable, the Prime Minister said, “Canadians will hold us to account by their experience at the grocery store”. He may regret those words today. Judged by that very measure, he is absolutely failing.

Food inflation is 70% above the Bank of Canada's target. Food prices are up 40% since the Liberals took power. Food bank use in Canada is up by 142% since 2015; the Daily Bread Food Bank expects four million visits to its food banks in 2025. Food inflation numbers released on Tuesday morning show overall inflation at 1.9% year over year in August, but grocery prices are up 3.5%. Meat is up 7.2% and beef is up 12.7% compared to August 2024. That is not a rounding error; that is a kitchen table crisis.

Families are not just making ends meet anymore or just making substitutions; they are actually skipping meals, and it is getting worse. Years of elevated food inflation mean that we are all paying today's higher prices on top of last year's increases. It is no wonder that Canadians feel as though the ground is shifting below them in the cereal aisle.

Let us be clear about the scale of hardship. In southwestern Ontario, local food banks repeatedly warn that it is tough to keep shelves stocked year-round as the demand grows. In Middlesex—London, one in four families is food insecure, which means they do not know where their next meal is going to come from. This is not and should not become normal in a country as blessed as Canada. When the government needs to step in to help feed people and their families, government policy is failing. Canadians see the disconnect.

Let us walk through how we actually got here. First, there are policy mistakes. The government slapped countertariffs on U.S. imports last spring, going far beyond steel and autos, and hit a long list of grocery items. Food economists warned that this would raise prices in the very aisles where Canadians were already hurting: coffee, tea, pasta, spices, nuts and citrus. Sure enough, we saw renewed pressure in July and August.

Then on May 7, after last spring's election campaign, the government quietly paused many of those countertariffs. There was no fanfare, no accountability, but this was a tacit admission that it had made a bad problem worse.

Second, there is volatile tinkering. The so-called GST holiday on groceries created chaos in pricing systems, compliance headaches and distortions across categories. Since January, food inflation has surged from -0.6% to 3.8%. Liberals claim this was inevitable, but federal meddling did not steady the ship; it rocked it.

Third, there are the structural costs the Liberals keep piling on. We can ask any grower, trucker, small processor or independent grocer about their biggest upward pressures. They are fuel costs, carbon taxes on the supply chain, red tape, slow approvals and a broken competition landscape that concentrates power in the hands of a few dominant retailers. When Ottawa pretends these inputs do not matter, it is pretending families will not see it reflected on their receipts at the grocery store, so let us dig into some numbers that Canadians are living with.

This is what the people in Middlesex—London are seeing at the checkout: beef top sirloin up 33%; canned soup up 26%, grapes up 24%, coffee up 22%, sugar up 20%, canned tuna up 19%, apples up 14%, vegetable oil up 13% and chicken up 11%. These are not luxury goods; these are staples. The average family of four is projected to spend almost $17,000 on food this year. That is over $800 more than last year. Sixty-one per cent of Canadians worry that they will not be able to afford groceries six months from now, and that fear is even higher among young adults and modest-income families. These are not abstract figures; they describe the family in the minivan beside us in the parking lot.

In Middlesex—London, local headlines have reported crowded food bank drives, community cupboards running at capacity and frontline volunteers stretched thin. I have met with many pantry coordinators who say demand spikes high right before rent is due or when the hydro bill lands, because people simply run out. When a mother tells us she has learned to ration fruit for her kids, we do not forget it. Across Canada, the story is the same.

Because I am a Conservative, I am going to talk about supply, not just the symptoms. I grew up on a family farm. I still run an operation today. I have said it many times before, and I will say it again: no farms, no food. If we do not support Canadian farmers, we will have less food and higher prices, full stop. The Liberals' poor policies on the carbon tax, fertilizer tariffs, carbon tax 2, the clean fuel standards, plastic packaging bans and red tape have punished farm families working on the thinnest of margins. The Liberals have piled costs onto producers, haulers and processors and then acted shocked when prices rise at the till. That is not economics; that is denial.

Let me also debunk a fashionable fallacy I keep hearing in Ottawa, that banning modern food packaging and plastics will magically make life cheaper and greener. Well, it will not. In committee rooms and on plant floors across Ontario, I have seen how safe, modern packaging prevents waste, extends shelf life and keeps costs lower for consumers. We import more than 80% of our fresh fruit and vegetables. Long-haul supply chains need reliable packaging to preserve the quality and safety of the food. When activists force rushed bans or label essential materials as toxic, they do not make food cheaper; they make it more expensive and more likely to spoil. That is not a theory; it is what the industry has warned, and it is what common sense tells us.

For any Liberal who disagrees, I will happily give any of them a book to read by a leading expert in the field, Chris DeArmitt. He has reviewed over 4,000 peer-reviewed scientific studies on plastic, and I agree with him that “The problem is clearly not with plastic itself, but with the...behaviour of some humans who [litter].”

In the real world, plastic films and trays extend shelf life, cut spoilage and keep food safer through transport and storage. This is critical in Canada. As DeArmitt says, smart packaging isn't the villain; it is the reason your lettuce is not soup by Tuesday. By banning plastics or replacing them with heavier, leakier alternatives, we do not get greener; we get more waste and more emissions. Treating plastics as toxic would add 50% more waste at retail and up to 150% across the full supply chain, and would add a further 22.1 million tonnes of GHGs tied to food waste, over 8% of national emissions. The bottom line is simple: Banning plastics would not solve the problem; it would create more problems.

The current Liberals have continued Trudeau's legacy by holding a disastrous record on making Canadians poorer and food more expensive. Current Liberal spending and deficits today are only getting worse. Canadians deserve better, and we will deliver. Effective policy will focus on better design, recycling and responsible use, not on swapping materials for food to spoil faster, break in transit or drive higher transportation emissions per kilogram of product delivered.

If we care about climate and affordability, smart plastic packaging is part of the solution, not the scapegoat. Conservatives call on the Prime Minister to stop taxing food, by eliminating the industrial carbon tax on fertilizer and farm equipment; the inflationary money-printing deficits; carbon tax 2, the so-called clean fuel standard; and the food packaging plastics ban, packaging requirements and the plastics registry that will drive up both costs and waste.

Opposition Motion—Food TaxationBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:30 a.m.

Liberal

Arielle Kayabaga Liberal London West, ON

Mr. Speaker, the member and I have the privilege of representing the good people of London West. I have spoken to so many people in London who, during the time that we had the GST pause, saw an increase of people using their restaurants and saw families go out and buy goods. I have heard from families in London that have benefited from the dental care program. More than 1,290 children in London West alone, not covering the entire region of London, have benefited from dental care. The child tax benefit has lifted so many families in London out of poverty.

Why has the member voted against all those things that help the people of London? Today the member is talking about helping and supporting. Why does she vote against them?

Opposition Motion—Food TaxationBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:30 a.m.

Conservative

Lianne Rood Conservative Middlesex—London, ON

Mr. Speaker, the reality is that a GST holiday for a short period of time does not actually solve a long-term problem that the Liberals have created with affordability in Canada after 10 years.

Conservatives believe that the government should not have to pay for kids to eat; parents should be able to provide for that, but it is government policies that are forcing people to go to food banks, because it is increasing taxes. The Liberals continue to punish farmers with an industrial carbon tax that puts the cost of fuel and everything for food inputs higher.

If the member truly did want to help people in Middlesex—London afford food, perhaps the Liberals would look at some of their policies and actually do things that would bring the cost of living down for Canadians.

Opposition Motion—Food TaxationBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:30 a.m.

Bloc

Yves Perron Bloc Berthier—Maskinongé, QC

Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the hon. member and I miss having her on the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food. I mentioned that the other day.

My question is along the same lines as the first one I asked, which I did not get an answer to. I asked for an explanation as to why the cancellation of the infamous evil carbon tax did not lead to lower grocery prices.

Let me rephrase my question. Instead of throwing around slogans and labelling things as taxes that are not, such as the plastics ban, which we know is a reasonable goal, why are the Conservatives not putting forward practical proposals?

It seems to me that my colleague and I usually agree when we talk about practical measures, such as a process for reviewing grocery store pricing. We have worked together extensively on this issue.

Opposition Motion—Food TaxationBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:30 a.m.

Conservative

Lianne Rood Conservative Middlesex—London, ON

Mr. Speaker, I do miss working with the member on the agriculture committee. It was great working with him on the committee, but he raises really great concerns.

When the government continues to have a commercial carbon tax on fuel for trucks that transport our food, whether from the farm field to a farm or to be washed, sorted, graded, packaged and sent again on another truck to a food distribution centre that then sends it on another truck to a grocery store, all the added fuel cost adds cost to the food itself. It is no wonder that when food arrives at the grocery store, retailers have to put up the price, because the price has gone up all along the value chain and the supply chain before it ever reaches the consumer at the grocery store.

If we want to talk about the P2 plastics ban's getting rid of plastic packaging, I will say that it would take more GHGs and more trucks on the road to deliver paper packaging to places versus—

Opposition Motion—Food TaxationBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:35 a.m.

The Deputy Speaker Tom Kmiec

Questions and comments.

The member for Lethbridge has the floor.

Opposition Motion—Food TaxationBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

Mr. Speaker, the Parliamentary Budget Officer has said that with the coming budget on November 4, we should expect to see record deficits. This is very concerning for myriad reasons, but today we are talking about the increased cost to food, the increased cost of living and the struggle Canadians are having.

The government insists on spending more money that we do not have. What impact will this have on Canadians families?

Opposition Motion—Food TaxationBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

Lianne Rood Conservative Middlesex—London, ON

Mr. Speaker, I am hearing from constituents from across Middlesex—London, and here is one example. They said:

...it has become evident to me that the government's response has fallen short in proportion to the severity of the challenges faced by our communities. To be clear, there is nothing normal about what is happening in Canada, and these issues must be approached with the urgency they require.

Families, seniors, students, and new Canadians are being forced to make impossible choices between putting food on the table and paying for other basic necessities.

Therefore we need to see less money spent by the government in deficits, we need to stop the money printing and we need to give Canadians policies that will make—

Opposition Motion—Food TaxationBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:35 a.m.

Taiaiako'n—Parkdale—High Park Ontario

Liberal

Karim Bardeesy LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Industry

Mr. Speaker, I am thankful for the opportunity to speak to the motion. I appreciate the concern that is underlying it.

Like a lot of members on both sides of the House, I tend to do grocery shopping with or for my family on weekends when the House is sitting. Recently I shopped at the No Frills in Bloor West Village at the corner of Bloor and Runnymede on Saturday night, and I met some of my constituents there who were doing their shopping. In the case of our family, we also do a lot of shopping at Maple Produce for fruit and vegetables and the Hot Oven Bakery on Roncesvalles Avenue.

Before I get into the substance of the debate, I think it is important to show appreciation for all people in our community, in our country, including the member for Middlesex—London, who are involved in the food sector, whether it is retailers large or small, people who are bringing their wares to farmers' markets, people who grow and supply the food, or people who work on the packaging of the food, whether those workers are unionized or non-unionized. It is a big ecosystem and something of which Canadians are rightly proud. It is also an export market for us.

I want to give thanks for the work that has been done in the House both by the current government and by our predecessors on the industry committee, on which I sit, to really start to look at and tackle the issue. Some of the measures have been mentioned already. My colleague, the deputy government House leader, mentioned the GST holiday. The industry committee in its previous incarnation did a lot of work on competition in the grocery sector. Thanks to its work and the work of the previous industry minister, we now have a grocery code of conduct and some other measures that are coming to help address some of the issues that are talked about in the motion.

It is important to realize what has been done, including the very first actions that the government took. On day one, the government cancelled the consumer carbon tax, and I want to situate the issue in the larger set of circumstances around affordability in this country. The motion talks about food prices, although there seems to be a bit of confusion in the sense that, and I am just getting ahead of some of what I am going to say, the answer in the motion appears to be to abandon our climate commitments, which I do not think is advisable. I think we can do both.

Let us situate this in the broader context of affordability. On day one, there was the cancellation of the consumer carbon tax. It was an important measure and something that affected and benefited folks in every one of our ridings. Definitely in Taiaiako'n—Parkdale—High Park, the impact was immediate and benefited our constituents.

There was the lowering of income tax, which I am glad to see there was some support from the other side of the aisle. It had an immediate effect on July 1. We moved very quickly. There were different ways to design it. We could have cut a cheque and said, “Here you go” and had a very expensive process to get money back to people, but we did it in the most efficient way possible, which was lowering income tax rates for people in the lowest income tax bracket, saving them up to $840 a year by next year. It has a real impact on the pocketbook of our constituents.

Additionally, I have the benefit of sitting beside my colleague, the member for Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, the parliamentary secretary to the minister of industry, who has some facts I know he will be wanting to share later. Because of lowering inflation in some circumstances, the overall economic circumstances around the consumer price index and a variety of other circumstances, the Bank of Canada was able to make its move to lower interest rates most recently.

This is some of the broader context, and there are probably some areas of agreement on what I have said with respect to the issues. However, a lot more has happened since the consumer carbon tax cancellation and the income tax cut, and I will go through a few of the measures, because when we add them up, they add up to a lot of support for Canadians.

There are the new EI supports. In the commercial war that we are in with the United States, we have to support our workers in a more diligent way, especially in affected sectors, and so we have some new employment insurance supports. We also have the ongoing and increased support with the Canada child benefit, one of the signature initiatives of the former government. It is something I wish we could get more support on from the other side of the aisle, from which we continue to hear nothing about the benefits of the Canada child benefit. However, in my riding, I am constantly hearing from constituents about the benefits of the program.

The Canada child care program and the benefits that accrue to families and the real, meaningful cost of living change that has resulted have changed the lives of families. I was canvassing in the Bloor West Village area of Taiaiako'n—Parkdale—High Park over the weekend. I spoke to some constituents on Armadale Avenue. When I run into families with kids under the age of 12 in my riding, there is not a family that that says this initiative has not changed lives. This initiative has changed lives. I want to pay tribute to the late Ken Dryden and our colleague in this House, Chrystia Freeland—

Opposition Motion—Food TaxationBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:40 a.m.

The Deputy Speaker Tom Kmiec

Just a reminder that the member cannot use the names of currently sitting members, either their first name or their last name, only titles.

The parliamentary secretary.