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Human Resources committee That is a good question. We currently do not have a program with a social finance component. There aren't any at my department, but there are some examples at the Public Health Agency of Canada. The Agency has worked on projects with organizations that had social finance dimensions.
May 14th, 2015Committee meeting
Siobhan Harty
Human Resources committee Not per se.... Charities exist in civil society to serve the purposes that Cathy mentioned. I would say that social finance is just an instrument, just as charitable donations are in order to be able to help them advance some of their objectives. They are different types of funding streams that can help a charity or a not-for-profit organization accomplish a goal or a mission within all the rules and regulations that Cathy articulated.
May 14th, 2015Committee meeting
Siobhan Harty
Human Resources committee In terms of an active consultation process, no. There's no advisory board of charitable organizations that meets with us on a regular basis, but as with many other government departments, we regularly meet with stakeholders. I would say that over the years we meet with stakeholders in the sector to discuss various issues.
May 14th, 2015Committee meeting
Siobhan Harty
Human Resources committee No, that didn't happen to me. Blair and I were here at the beginning, but you didn't abandon us.
May 14th, 2015Committee meeting
Siobhan Harty
Human Resources committee We might be able to work with our colleagues at Industry Canada in order to provide that information to the committee.
May 14th, 2015Committee meeting
Siobhan Harty
Human Resources committee Sorry.
May 14th, 2015Committee meeting
Siobhan Harty
Human Resources committee They might not know that they can access those programs.
May 14th, 2015Committee meeting
Siobhan Harty
Human Resources committee Personally, I don't know. I think this has more to do with the mandate of our colleagues at Industry Canada. Industry Canada has programs that may be accessible to non-profit organizations, especially social enterprises. I think it is up to Industry Canada to answer that question.
May 14th, 2015Committee meeting
Siobhan Harty
Human Resources committee I can't comment for the Canadian context because we obviously haven't done any in the federal government. We've just launched one, a kind of hybrid between pay-for-performance and social impact bonds, but it's in its early stages.
May 14th, 2015Committee meeting
Siobhan Harty
Human Resources committee Minister Kenney had announced something in October 2013, and this is in the area of literacy and essential skills. It is a short-term project. It will run for 18 months, approximately. It has two populations: one of employed Canadians and one of non-employed Canadians. In both cases, interventions are applied to increase their literacy and essential skills levels, with the objective of their having stronger labour market attachment.
May 14th, 2015Committee meeting
Siobhan Harty
Human Resources committee Yes, or 100%, and they'll define that—people who have multiple barriers, for instance. As I said, there are different techniques, and that's common in applied social sciences, but there are also many remedies from a research design perspective to address that.
May 14th, 2015Committee meeting
Siobhan Harty
Human Resources committee In terms of measurement?
May 14th, 2015Committee meeting
Siobhan Harty
Human Resources committee No, I can't comment.
May 14th, 2015Committee meeting
Siobhan Harty
Human Resources committee Yes, because we are very—
May 14th, 2015Committee meeting
Siobhan Harty
Human Resources committee Right now we don't do any of it. We don't typically measure outcomes. We tend to measure outputs in the context of our grants and contributions programs. I'll give you an example within my ministry of where we are, I think, quite adept at being able to measure things because we deal with social outcomes all the time.
May 14th, 2015Committee meeting
Siobhan Harty