Justice committee  It is not my end goal. Exit is not my end goal. I do actually support people who come to me and say, I want to start looking for another job. We are actually planning to have a workshop about how to write a resumé and how to do a cover letter. We offer our clients a space where they can use our computers and do print outs, those kinds of things.

Justice committee  Yes, there are. I absolutely—

Justice committee  There are.

Justice committee  What if they're working with—

Justice committee  What if they're working in an area where there are youth 18 or younger?

Justice committee  Well, what I can do is tell you about the sex workers who do advertise online and in newspapers. Their concern with this legislation is that first, it will be difficult for them to reach clients because many of them use third-party websites. I won't mention their names—I was going to but...they are very concerned about that.

Justice committee  Absolutely. As I said, we work with many street-involved sex workers. We have a drop-in centre where people can come in and get some food, and pick up safer sex and safer drug-use supplies. People were wondering what was going on with this legislation, and we thought a great idea would be to have an education workshop explaining what the legislation is about.

Justice committee  I find that hard to believe.

Justice committee  I would go back to what Chanelle was just saying that the sex workers groups I'm talking about are predominantly if not fully made up of people who are currently in the sex industry. There's a big difference, a huge difference, between someone who will actually be impacted themself by this legislation and—

Justice committee  No.

Justice committee  Yes, current.... There are no—

Justice committee  Are you current sex workers?

Justice committee  Yes, absolutely. For me, it is not something that I would like to see happen. I would prefer that prostitution be decriminalized, because as—

Justice committee  The Prostitution Reform Act 2003 of New Zealand recognized the harm done to sex workers, and that is why they decided to decriminalize. In fact, the intent of that legislation was to create a framework to safeguard the human rights of sex workers and to protect them from exploitation, to promote the welfare and occupational health and safety of sex workers.

Justice committee  These are things that sex workers need.