Fisheries committee  Thank you for the question. You've asked about a number of points, and I'll try to touch on all of them. As was pointed out in the presentation by the CFO, PICFI, the Pacific program, is $44 million over two years, and the Atlantic program is $22 million over two years. As the q

Fisheries committee  In terms of salmon this year, it was a very good year for Pacific salmon and Fraser sockeye, in particular. In fact, final formal numbers won't be in until March, but the estimate is around 20 million returned this year. We made some adjustments to management measures and we beli

Fisheries committee  I would say—

Fisheries committee  I'm sorry.

Fisheries committee  Sure there is. It's absolutely the case. I'm going to quickly do a parenthesis: 18 of the 24 certified fisheries are in Atlantic Canada. Absolutely, that is a challenge. The challenge for us is.... What's good about it is that as long as it's all based on the FAO guidelines, wh

Fisheries committee  What examples would we give?

Fisheries committee  I'll start with the last point and I'll ask others to jump in, in a moment. Class certification, people will tell you, depends on the fishery. The reality is that it's $100,000 to $150,000 for a fishery, on average, to get certified, so it's not inexpensive.

Fisheries committee  That's a good point. It's to get certified the first time. Then it costs to meet some of the conditions. Then the certification lasts only five years and you need to get recertified. It's not another $100,000, but it's.... It's not an inexpensive process. In terms of being invo

Fisheries committee  I just note on that—

Fisheries committee  No, no, no. The issue is it would be interesting to see if the seal fishery, the seal hunt could be certified. No one has ever tested it.

Fisheries committee  It has a precautionary approach. It has a total allowable catch. It has all of the things you're supposed to have in a certified fishery.

Fisheries committee  I'd point out that so far, Canada has managed, and our fisheries have managed, to be certified. In every single case we've actually achieved the certification, in 24 cases out of 24 efforts. It's actually being achieved, although not easily for some of the reasons that you've jus

Fisheries committee  I'm not sure which ones you'd be referring to.

Fisheries committee  It's not certification; it's their list, and in fact—

Fisheries committee  It really is an independent market-based thing.