Government Operations committee  Yes, that is a fair statement.

Government Operations committee  The bulk of McKinsey's work for the Canadian public sector falls into the area of digital transformation and agile transformation.

Government Operations committee  That's a slightly challenging question to answer, because it's not quite our model. The public sector practice for McKinsey Canada, truthfully, is a relatively small part of our practice. If you think about the 1,100-plus people who work for McKinsey Canada, it's a relatively small number of the people we have.

Government Operations committee  That is a confidential item. We're a private organization, and that's confidential information.

Government Operations committee  As I indicated in my remarks, our public sector work is a relatively small part of what we do. It's roughly 5% to 7% of our operations here in Canada.

Government Operations committee  Yes. I'd like to offer an example. I alluded to work we do in digital transformation. For example, we did some work with the navy. We helped them take a manual process whereby the navy had to find sailors across the country for rapid deployment onto a ship at a particular port, which was a very manual labour-intensive process, and we helped digitize it and streamline it.

Government Operations committee  As part of the normal course of delivery of our engagements and contracts, it is typical to engage with the civil service in the delivery of the work, yes.

Government Operations committee  Mr. Chair, thank you for the question. There are a couple of elements there. First, I would start by saying that McKinsey adheres to all the policies and procedures that the federal government requires us to follow. Second, I would let Dominic Barton's testimony to this committee stand.

Government Operations committee  Mr. Chair, I am not familiar with that email or the specifics of that email. What I can say is that McKinsey takes its obligation to comply with the rules that the federal government applies to all contracts very seriously and we follow them very seriously.

Government Operations committee  Mr. Barton left McKinsey in 2018, as indicated in his testimony. He severed his economic relationship by selling his shares at McKinsey, as was shared with this committee. Mr. Barton was not working with any clients that I'm aware of, to the best of my knowledge.

Government Operations committee  I also believe that Mr. Barton had an obligation to the federal government to disclose any conflicts, consistent with the policies of the government. He had to adhere to those.

Government Operations committee  I have not personally met with any members of this government. I cannot state definitively whether my colleagues have or have not.

Government Operations committee  Mr. Chair, I do not have off the top of my head a list of the specific interactions between McKinsey colleagues. I do know we have an obligation to comply with the rules and regulations. We do take that seriously and we do follow that.

Government Operations committee  I have never met with the Prime Minister's Office, personally. Again, Mr. Chair, I am unable to specifically comment on all members of our firm and whether they have had contact or not.

Government Operations committee  I have not personally, no.