Business of Supply  Madam Chair, we know that stigma will put people back into the dark shadows, using alone and dying alone, which is why we need to do everything we can to break stigma, open doors and bring them into the light.

Business of Supply  Madam Chair, I thank the Minister of Indigenous Services for her compassion. It is so important for us to remember what it means to be Canadian right now. We hold each other together, and we are holding each other through many challenging things right now, including the tragic lives lost through the overdose crisis.

Business of Supply  Madam Chair, as mentioned, they have been licensed for research purposes, so the answer would be no.

Business of Supply  No, Madam Chair.

Business of Supply  Again, Madam Chair, Health Canada licences are for research purposes only.

Business of Supply  Madam Chair, I would be more than happy to get back to the member with an exact answer from officials.

Business of Supply  Madam Chair, as heroin, as mentioned before, is used for medical purposes, we cannot withhold those licenses. However, we will continue to work to ensure there are strict regulatory mechanisms in place.

Business of Supply  Madam Chair, unfortunately the member does not recognize that many of the pain management medications used in hospitals and medical facilities are part of these components, and we have to move carefully to make sure we are addressing all issues.

Business of Supply  Madam Chair, people are dying, and it is absolutely tragic.

Business of Supply  Madam Chair, we have had a comprehensive program since 2017 looking at all option tools and resources to address the toxic drug supply.

Business of Supply  Madam Chair, sadly, we have lost 42,000 Canadians due to overdose, but 86% of overdose deaths in the last set of data was from the illicit toxic drug supply, not—

Business of Supply  Madam Chair, I do not have that number. I am happy to get it for the member, but I am sure he will tell me.

Business of Supply  Madam Chair, I am aware that the street price of diverted hydromorphone has lowered in many jurisdictions across the country, but we see that the majority of overdose deaths are because of illicit fentanyl and not due to the drug that he is referring to.

Business of Supply  Yes, Madam Chair.

Business of Supply  Madam Chair, as a physician, the member should well know that heroin is used in the standard practice of medicine in terms of pain management.