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Status of Women committee  We tap into both. When I'm looking at the threat assessment that has just been produced and it's almost ready to be signed off, we look at both domestic and international. The issue is that the victims may be domestic or the victims may be from abroad. So we look at it from a holistic perspective.

December 8th, 2009Committee meeting

Supt Michel Aubin

December 8th, 2009Committee meeting

Supt Michel Aubin

December 8th, 2009Committee meeting

Supt Michel Aubin

Status of Women committee  Okay. I'll just go to the conclusion here. Human trafficking is an insidious crime that the RCMP recognizes the need to address. While there are varied reports on human trafficking in past sporting events--including that of Germany in 2006, where there was no notable increase--the RCMP has taken a proactive, comprehensive approach involving our enforcement partners and border and victim management services.

December 8th, 2009Committee meeting

Supt Michel Aubin

Status of Women committee  Good afternoon, Madam Chair, and members of the committee. Thank you for inviting us to appear before you again. For those who are following my prepared notes, and in the spirit of respecting the time limit, I will be skipping through the first four pages. The first four pages emphasize what the RCMP is doing through its Human Trafficking National Coordination Centre, based in Ottawa.

December 8th, 2009Committee meeting

Superintendent Michel Aubin

Status of Women committee  We're very focused. A lot of work is being done on massage parlours by the RCMP or other law enforcement agencies, and that's where we're educating the police officers. When they go in and realize that it's not massage and that what's going on is an illegal activity, they'll look at it from a perspective that's beyond the illegality and consider whether we're talking about victims of human trafficking.

June 11th, 2009Committee meeting

Supt Michel Aubin

Status of Women committee  Do you mean for the victims?

June 11th, 2009Committee meeting

Supt Michel Aubin

Status of Women committee  I'll give you an example. In British Columbia, a prime example was the Pickton farm case. We have victim management services within the RCMP. In this example we were dealing with the ladies who were involved in prostitution and who came and testified to the courts. A lot of help was provided to them through victim management services to help them regain their confidence and self-esteem and find a way to carry themselves in life.

June 11th, 2009Committee meeting

Supt Michel Aubin

Status of Women committee  I can tell you—and this is basically premised on police experience and dealing with people at the time we're interviewing them—there is a correlation between their knowing that the perpetrator or person against whom they are talking is in the judicial system, in jail, or out of reach and basically out of harm's way, and a better intention on their part to work or cooperate with law enforcement, from a general perspective.

June 11th, 2009Committee meeting

Supt Michel Aubin

Status of Women committee  There were seven adults, though.

June 11th, 2009Committee meeting

Supt Michel Aubin

Status of Women committee  To your first question, Madam Chair, on the hospitality industry and what not, I think there are two approaches. One is through the current awareness campaign to bring awareness to all. But as well, the other is to focus on law enforcement from a practical perspective. With law enforcement in the city, the police officers who are on the street have their contacts or sources in all sorts of industries.

June 11th, 2009Committee meeting

Supt Michel Aubin

Status of Women committee  And that's why I say that through law enforcement we have contacts within these services by the very nature of our work, because we deal with them on many issues. So it's very normal to have these contacts, and it's a matter of making the police officers aware of this type of crime, as well as the general community.

June 11th, 2009Committee meeting

Supt Michel Aubin

Status of Women committee  From a law enforcement perspective--and CBSA will probably have some points on that--right now we're working with the legislation. We have legislation under the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the Criminal Code, both of which provide us with a wide variety of legislative measures, if you will.

June 11th, 2009Committee meeting

Supt Michel Aubin

Status of Women committee  I think I can approach that question from a more general perspective in terms of law enforcement. We're looking at victims of crime in general, and the answer is yes, if they know they're protected and if they understand that they need to be protected. That's probably something particular about this area: many victims don't realize they're victims.

June 11th, 2009Committee meeting

Supt Michel Aubin

June 11th, 2009Committee meeting

Supt Michel Aubin