Health committee  I want to say yes. I just don't know whether, in this transition period, we have bothered to keep updating it. That's my only concern.

Health committee  I'll get that information back to the committee.

Health committee  I haven't seen the types of studies where you have panels of experts examining the studies and then doing an evaluation grading the quality of the evidence, where you can have strong concluding evidence on that, and there is—

Health committee  It's true that across the board different foods will have different digestibility. Here what you're looking at, of course, is with respect to the protein content as well. Basically, as we develop our dietary reference intakes and as we develop our dietary patterns, we try to take all of that into consideration at a certain level.

Health committee  Certainly in the proposal that went forward for consultation last year there hasn't been an inclusion of calories. What has been looked at, and what we have commentary on, were these same three nutrients of public health concern, once again, the saturated fats, the sugars, and the sodium.

Health committee  Obviously on the side of pack and in the back of pack you do have the number of calories per serving.

Health committee  As I pointed out, I don't actually meet with any industry groups at all.

Health committee  Certainly where I've seen it is the same place you've seen it. In the media there's been lots of that. I read the newspaper as well and I look at my Facebook. There has been a lot of push-back, you're right, at that particular level. When we get the consultations, because of the large numbers, of course, the analysis of the input, I don't actually see who is saying what.

Health committee  I don't, but that's neither here nor there.

Health committee  Yes, certainly from Health Canada.... Aspartame is a regulated product and has certainly been deemed safe for use. I was thinking of the comment that was just made in terms of the palate. There's certainly a lot of evidence from a sodium perspective that when you have it, you're searching more for it as well.

Health committee  When I say that, I just want to be clear that this is not me as Health Canada saying that this is unsafe. It is safe. We have not found any study.... Again, don't misinterpret me.

Health committee  Again, I don't want to be debating what it is, but certainly Sweden promotes patterns that have a high proportion of plant-based and—

Health committee  They actually put forward a limit with respect to red meat consumption of less than 500 grams per week, and they have messages that say to eat less, as well.

Health committee  What we are talking about, of course, is reducing the refined carbohydrates and the sugars. That's a very big part of what we are going forward with. That's where we have the strong evidence base, with respect to the refined carbs. We don't have a strong evidence base for just carbs overall.

Health committee  Sure. Again, there is very strong evidence for that.