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Justice committee  As our first point, to a certain extent, we feel that it would be preferable for this bill to have been set in a broader context of support, and to have as a strategy the protection of and support for people who are victims of crime and, specifically, a broader strategy of fighting mental illness and its effects on society.

June 10th, 2013Committee meeting

Nathalie Des Rosiers

Justice committee  We have to ask ourselves if we are not, in a way, changing the therapeutic approach that is necessary to treat mental illness and confusing it with a more punitive approach where punishment is the main thrust and the aspect of therapy, in the sense of managing the mental illness, comes second.

June 10th, 2013Committee meeting

Nathalie Des Rosiers

Justice committee  My three points are essentially these. Number one is the necessity that this act should be framed in the context of a larger strategy on mental health.

June 10th, 2013Committee meeting

Nathalie Des Rosiers

Justice committee  In a way, although it does aim to respond to the informational needs of victims, it does not respond to other needs, for example, financial help and support. It certainly addresses very little the need for prevention and the lack of access to mental services in Canada, a problem that we are particularly aware of, since many people call us.

June 10th, 2013Committee meeting

Nathalie Des Rosiers

Justice committee  Are you trying to...?

June 10th, 2013Committee meeting

Nathalie Des Rosiers

Justice committee  Good afternoon. My name is Nathalie Des Rosiers. I am general counsel for the Canadian Civil Liberties Association. I am accompanied by Michelle Thomarat, a student in our office.

June 10th, 2013Committee meeting

Nathalie Des Rosiers

Public Safety committee  I would say a couple of things about these provisions. Number one, as you know, the definition of terrorist activities is at the Supreme Court now and being debated as to whether it's too wide or not. When you read the provisions, there is a certain ambiguity to it, a certain vagueness, that I think will create some trouble or some difficulties in proving that.

November 28th, 2012Committee meeting

Nathalie Des Rosiers

Public Safety committee  Yes, sorry; I just want to say that one of the things that are not in the accountability framework...and I share very much the BCCLA's position on this. I will be happy to provide the committee with our assessment of the RCMP bill, which, on accountability, does not completely respond to some of the questions of Maher Arar.

November 28th, 2012Committee meeting

Nathalie Des Rosiers

November 28th, 2012Committee meeting

Nathalie Des Rosiers

Public Safety committee  Being committed to fairness and the Constitution, and ensuring that truth is the end result—I think that is the commitment we should have to both victims and offenders. The fairness, the legitimacy, of the system—the way people will cooperate with it, in the knowledge that they will not be unfairly treated, that there is sufficient accountability and framework around it—that's what reassures me.

November 28th, 2012Committee meeting

Nathalie Des Rosiers

Public Safety committee  I think one of the issues would be whether the re-enactment of the provision will require judicial clarification. Why not prevent this going all the way up again?

November 28th, 2012Committee meeting

Nathalie Des Rosiers

Public Safety committee  We can agree to disagree in terms of what is the necessity here, but....

November 28th, 2012Committee meeting

Nathalie Des Rosiers

Public Safety committee  Yes, that's true, certainly. I'm saying that for the benefit of the Canadian public, I think your job as parliamentarians is to ensure that this teaching is not lost. My suggestion is that you should make sure that it's in the bill. It increases the transparency of it and—

November 28th, 2012Committee meeting

Nathalie Des Rosiers

Public Safety committee  In our view, if you do read the decision this way, you should put it in the act, because that's the danger, actually, of transforming the.... I mean, I'm saying this—

November 28th, 2012Committee meeting

Nathalie Des Rosiers

Public Safety committee  But the decision does not say; it implies it. It says that we will read it as though it has that protection against, which—

November 28th, 2012Committee meeting

Nathalie Des Rosiers