Foreign Affairs committee  He said to me.... And I don't know how he did that. He said he was looking on the Internet. Just a click.

Foreign Affairs committee  He was raising with me the fact—and this was a concern to me also—that a certain number of persons who were participating at the Cairo conference did have relations with terrorists.

Foreign Affairs committee  What I understand and what I was told on many, many occasions and from documents I've seen, the former president concentrated his efforts.... The aim was that SIRCO would serve for the firing of the three directors, and that he put an end to SIRCO's mandate. What I did when I arrived, because there were so many e-mails all around, I went and I saw SIRCO and I said, Do you have some other thing?

Foreign Affairs committee  That's what he said to me.

Foreign Affairs committee  Deloitte is important, is useful for me—

Foreign Affairs committee  No, no, no.

Foreign Affairs committee  It's essential in order to permit me to move ahead on three major factors. Look at the discretionary funds: $1.5 million given to small organizations—

Foreign Affairs committee  There was a debate on the board on the question about more reports, more work from SIRCO. I was against that. But the SIRCO report is useful, Mr. Dewar, because this is in fact in relation to the activities of the three directors who were dismissed. It was essential for that.

Foreign Affairs committee  No. Look, just one moment. Gauthier made an end to the SIRCO inquiry, and for him SIRCO was about the dismissal of the three directors. It was not, for him, about other things.

Foreign Affairs committee  Right. Regarding the Cairo thing, if I can explain--

Foreign Affairs committee  Yes.

Foreign Affairs committee  The Cairo thing was the fact I gave that to the RCMP, and they told me they're not going to pursue the inquiry—

Foreign Affairs committee  The SIRCO report was $170,000.

Foreign Affairs committee  Deloitte was $250,000.

Foreign Affairs committee  The lawyers—