Industry committee  I apologize for making it sound like I'm not agreeing with you any more. I still agree with you. I think it's a matter of getting it right within the context of the rest of the amendments, and the rest of the amendments talk about examinations and not measurements.

Industry committee  I'm wondering if “uniformly” would be better served by stating “consistently”. Thinking back to some of the discussions I brought forward earlier about manufacturers versus service organizations and the different contexts, “consistently” may be a better word

Industry committee  Other than “uniformly”. It would be everything you said up to “uniformly”, and then replace “uniformly” with “consistently”.

Industry committee  Here we're talking about the sectors that are regulated under the Weights and Measures Act. There are eight sectors...

Industry committee  I'm catching up.

Industry committee  We're on proposed subsection 16(1.1)? I'm looking for the proposed amendment.

Industry committee  None. The impact is on weights and measures, particularly as it relates to a gas pump manufacturer like Tokheim & Gasboy or an inspector like... No one is coming to mind right now. There is National Energy Equipment Inc. It has no connection with electricity and gas, just with weights and measures.

Industry committee  Yes.

Industry committee  It actually reflects what's occurring. We are dealing with different sectors and different stakeholders. On the electricity and gas side, we're talking about large utilities and large manufacturers. Again, as I stated earlier, with the training processes that the Canadian Electricity Association and the Canadian Gas Association have in place, as well as the Municipal Electric Association and some of the other provincial bodies, it's more than adequate, and the evidence seems to indicate that.

Industry committee  I guess what I have to say is that I'm not looking at what you're looking at. Is it proper process to ask to have it tabled so that we can take a look at it?

Industry committee  If we're speaking about the ENG amendment, I don't think it adds anything of value, because I don't think the ENG amendment adds anything of value at this point. Maybe I should choose my words a little more carefully here, but if we're talking about weights and measures, then let's take a look at it.

Industry committee  Yes, exactly, performance based.

Industry committee  We oversee Hydro-Québec through our audits, our product audits, and so on.

Industry committee  Again, if that's the impression I gave, that's not what I meant.

Industry committee  What I meant is that there are different situations for a utility such as Hydro-Québec compared to a utility such as TransAlta in terms of the test equipment they use that would require us to assess what they're doing and determine whether it's suitable. It may not be exactly what Hydro-Québec is doing.