Procedure and House Affairs committee  I believe I forwarded the e-mail and added ten words. As I indicated to Mr. Lukiwski and in my original testimony in December, it was a lack of respect for the document. It wasn't any type of premeditation of sending it to somebody.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Certainly.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I believe there is a certain amount of political work that can happen with any member of Parliament. Of course, election work is something that inherently gets done by a few people, whether they be volunteers or whatnot. So on occasion, from home, I would make phone calls to certain members of her electoral district association or to campaign volunteers.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  No, it was as a volunteer.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I believe there was a mistake or something of a problem getting somebody a cellphone at that time, so I believe I may have lent my cellphone to Mr. Kroeker, or it was something of that nature. I do remember that media advisory going out and there being some confusion, but that number has been in my family's possession since 1996.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I was loosely aware of the situation surrounding Mr. Kroeker. As you are probably aware, the House and the Senate staff don't commingle. There's not a lot of communication. Mr. Kroeker was a co-worker of mine during my brief employment with the Secretary of State. That's it.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I've inquired as to the possibility of an exemption; however, I am not allowed to apply for an exemption.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I've asked myself the same question. I can only think of two possibilities. One is for some reason or other that's the only e-mail she had for me, or, two, if you're familiar with how a BlackBerry works, if you pull up a certain contact, you'll get two e-mail addresses for them, and perhaps she chose the wrong one.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  One would assume, but I don't maintain her BlackBerry, so I don't know what she has.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Yes.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  It was a very long time ago, I'm sorry. I'm sure she did.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  You're asking me to recall something that was three months ago. You'd know better than I if they were in camera, but I believe they were, and I believe—

Procedure and House Affairs committee  You mean the hearings of the pre-budget consultations?

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Yes, the pre-budget consultations were completely public. We would have discussed who had come and who had gone, yes.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I don't recall exactly, but I'm sure it could have come up in conversations.