Transport committee  All different trades, depending on what the project requires.

Transport committee  He said that over the next 10 years it would be $1.1 billion. I'm just looking....

Transport committee  Yes.

Transport committee  Yes. It says, “$1.1 billion over 5 to 8 years; every 1% cost increase is $11 million; 40% cost increase is $440 million”.

Transport committee  Mr. Poilievre, it depends on the contract, as not every contractor is qualified to bid on every contract. There's an example in the City of Hamilton report, which I'll table with the committee, where 94% of the contractors were not able to bid. Of 260 contractors, only 17 had the proper required relationship with the carpenters union.

Transport committee  It was 270.

Transport committee  Exactly.

Transport committee  Absolutely. They did public consultations. They said that over the course of 10 years it would be $1.1 billion. For instance, shortly after this happened, they let out a contract, which I referenced in earlier remarks, where by all expert opinion the budget should have been about $29 million.

Transport committee  Yes. The federal government allows city rules to trump their own rules. The federal government, thankfully, would never allow those sorts of rules if you wholly funded the project, but because you're a partner and you only fund a third, or less than a third in some cases, you allow the city rules to trump your own procurement rules.

Transport committee  Right.

Transport committee  City manager.

Transport committee  Absolutely.

Transport committee  Yes, they said, “On water/wastewater capital projects” because those are specific, so it was mostly open-shop contractors who were doing that work, so there weren't really any closed-shop contractors who were qualified to do the work. So they said on increased cost, “40% in overall cost”.

Transport committee  I think they also asked for the Cardus study.

Transport committee  I don't know in what context they can pay less than they pay for Canadian workers.