Human Resources committee  John F. Kennedy led the charge to clean up the corruption in American unions, just as the Charbonneau commission exposed was going on in these unions in Quebec. Ken Pereira bravely exposed what went on. People have been criminally charged for what went on in Quebec, okay?

Human Resources committee  Kennedy was actually a very brave man in that day and age given the level of corruption that was going on in American unions.

Human Resources committee  These are the kinds of stories we hear all the time, the one that you experienced. I think paragraph 8(5)(c) of the Income Tax Act talks about ordinary operating expenses of the union. Tax court case law, in a CRA interpretation bulletin, says a union that gives money to the Vancouver International Film Festival isn't spending it on normal operating expenses and, therefore, that those dues aren't tax deductible.

Human Resources committee  Bill 377 was going to bring that all out into the open. If you look at the SR and ED interpretation bulletins and the case law of the CRA, what you see is that the time that people spent was assessed by the CRA in terms of whether or not it complied with that part of the tax act.

Human Resources committee  The reality is that in the same way we say that unions speak for workers, who then speaks for Canada's workers who aren't represented—and even if they are? I was the North American head of human resources for Future Shop back when the Vancouver family that fled Iran still owned it, before they sold it to Best Buy.

Human Resources committee  We have absolutely none that I know of.

Human Resources committee  Let's talk about what the labourers said about the union cards.

Human Resources committee  Let's talk about what the PSAC did to Jeff Birch.

Human Resources committee  That's absolutely correct, other than the employees of those organizations, who are also employees.

Human Resources committee  When employees—

Human Resources committee  Yes.

Human Resources committee  That's absolutely correct.

Human Resources committee  It's not possible to answer yes or no. I can give a reason why they're not comparable. Nobody has to pay—

Human Resources committee  Not every restaurant has to pay dues in order to operate a restaurant by power of statute law.

Human Resources committee  Listen, if you want to make all unions give money to LabourWatch so that it can protect workers from unions, then we should have a level of disclosure, but I don't think Mr. Yussuff is going to support funding us to protect the Jeff Birches and the April Lubertis of the world from them.