International Trade committee  Being the chair of BCAC, firmly on the fence, but in these negotiations.... I mean, this is something I think that's fairly unique to Canada, this type of management system. I think it does extremely well for us, especially here in B.C. We have exorbitant land costs. It's not just something where you can say, dairy is popular so we're going to jump into dairy, jump out of dairy, jump into chickens, jump out of chickens.

International Trade committee  Not me personally, but we have through the Ag Council and also through most of the commodity groups.

International Trade committee  Sure, we do. Any producing group, so yes, grape growers are included with us.

International Trade committee  Do you want to talk about wine?

International Trade committee  That's our favourite topic, wine and gin.

International Trade committee  I think I'll wait for the details.

International Trade committee  The devil's in the details so it really comes down to.... Sorry, how many times has that been used? But that's really what our concern is. Again, at the high level, the broad level, looking at this, everything's going I think the way we would like to see it, but the concern will be once we get down to those details, especially with the European one, what has to be traded off, and what may be traded off.

International Trade committee  Standardization of MRLs, which are maximum residue limits, would be really important, especially in dealing with New Zealand and Australia. Their limits are ridiculously low. They can't import anything from North America, from Canada or the U.S.

International Trade committee  Unfortunately, they need berries. They've been in a drought situation for a long time and they want to import, but they can't.

International Trade committee  Yes, there is an MRL for captan in Europe now.

International Trade committee  Just to add to Debbie's answer, I don't think that blueberries specifically are being shut out. I think that this particular commodity is extremely popular around the world, especially Canadian blueberries. I think that the consumers of these countries are pushing their governments to make a deal.

International Trade committee  I think our federal representatives, the staff, have been amazing in pushing forward for blueberries and for dark sweet cherries, especially into China. They have really gone above and beyond getting the inspectors here, getting the protocols established, and I think we're very, very close on cherries.

International Trade committee  I'll let Debbie answer that.

International Trade committee  This goes back again to the non-tariff barriers. I think China is one of the countries negotiating in good faith on this aspect, but it's something about which we have to be careful that countries don't use as a trade barrier.

International Trade committee  I have. Yes.