Transport committee  No. The vessels are sent to us by exporters. They are inspected at the port by federal regulators. It takes about two and a half days. They do it with our grain now. They would actually give us the approval that the vessels were safe and secure to move into the bay for loading purposes.

Transport committee  Well, we're talking about a million barrels per vessel.

Transport committee  Yes.

Transport committee  No, not at this point it isn't. We're in compliance with all the regulations on insurance. To move forward, we recognize that those regulations are there for a purpose, and if we decide to move with a pilot project, we'll meet those regulations.

Transport committee  No, we don't.

Transport committee  The plan is to do a pilot test which would involve setting up a loading facility and if we can prove that it makes sense, then we would add to the investment to make it a full-time project.

Transport committee  As of today we're not transporting....

Transport committee  Exactly. What we do is supply into the Hudson Bay area by barge. We load it from train onto barge at the port, move it out from there, and then move it by truck to the airports in the surrounding area.

Transport committee  We do it with everything. We met with a lot of the communities and one of the biggest concerns they raised with us was the speed that we went through their community. I think at the time we were doing 10. But in consultation with them, we just felt it was the right thing to do. It doesn't impede our ability to deliver on time, so it's something that we just do.

Transport committee  That would be something that we would develop. And we're in the process of doing that.

Transport committee  We have a safety system that we implement and I can tell you that it seems to evolve almost daily, in the sense of reports back that we get from our employees. I sat in on one of the meetings that we had in The Pas recently and it was pretty enlightening for me to listen to what the people out there actually on the tracks doing the work had to say.

Transport committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. It is a pleasure to be back here. I think probably one of the reasons I'm here is that in the last several months, OmniTRAX Canada has put forward a proposal to move sweet crude through the Port of Churchill. Obviously that raises some of the concerns that I think are being addressed by the committee.