Transport committee  That's correct, yes.

Transport committee  Other organizations other than aviation, do you mean?

Transport committee  We have many associations that are actually supporting the proposed changes to expand safety management systems--major pilots unions, manufacturers, and transport associations.

Transport committee  We believe, first of all, those will be the maximum. As you know, we can go lower, but those are maximum fines. We think they are reasonable—

Transport committee  First of all, yes, you may say that may not be a big amount, but we can go under what we call summary conviction where it's a fine of over $1 million. So there's also that possibility. There's also the question of the reputation of the company as well. As you know, we post a corporate offenders' list on the website when these things happen.

Transport committee  If you're talking about the establishment of safety management systems, the current legislation enables the minister to make regulations with respect to that. We've already started doing this for the major air carriers and some other segments of the industry. However, in order to clarify that authority and also provide specific protection provisions in order to allow people to do internal reporting without fear of reprisals, we needed to expand the enabling authority under this proposed amendment.

Transport committee  These regulations are still valid. Safety management systems are valid. The requirements for organizations to abide by the basic criteria are valid. However, the protection provisions that we are seeking now—to further the internal reporting, to get more access to more safety information—will not be enabled.