Official Languages committee  Actually, there aren't any there, no.

Official Languages committee  But the demand is very low.

Official Languages committee  The demand is very low. So, it isn't necessary to have a bilingual person in Toronto because we can provide the service using bilingual individuals appointed to Montreal or elsewhere, and they can come to Toronto when hearings are held. There are employees who can do that.

Official Languages committee  Not right now, because we are able to stay up to date. But, we haven't been in the past because of the shortage…

Official Languages committee  You're welcome.

Official Languages committee  Again, I'm aware of the particular case. The language profile of the position was downgraded to give the individual a job because he or she—again, I'm not sure whether it was a man or a woman—had quit their previous job on the basis that we had made them a job offer. No, that should not happen.

Official Languages committee  There are 40 bilingual people and seven francophones at the Refugee Protection Division. So there are 47 people who are able to hear cases in French. In the Immigration Appeal Division, we have eight bilingual people…

Official Languages committee  Yes, but they aren't all in Toronto, unfortunately.

Official Languages committee  Eight, in the Immigration Appeal Division. In the Immigration Division, we have 11 bilingual people right now. I don't have the breakdown of francophones, anglophones and bilingual people. But the bilingual people are able to hear…

Official Languages committee  In Toronto.

Official Languages committee  In the Refugee Protection Division, yes.

Official Languages committee  It's the Montreal office…

Official Languages committee  Sorry, the IAD is the Immigration Appeal Division.

Official Languages committee  That's right, but at the moment…

Official Languages committee  As I said in my introduction, in those situations, we ask a bilingual employee to go from Vancouver or Montreal to Toronto, or we hold the hearing by videoconference.