Industry committee  Yes, we are doing that, but it's not a matter of making concessions; it's a matter of ensuring that what is being done is appropriate and suitable for that particular--

Industry committee  Yes, the big one that comes to mind is additional cost for the verification, because the government is involved in the training of the meter shop technicians, whereas we weren't before. So that's a cost that could be passed on.

Industry committee  I said "Measurement Canada". That's excellent. Thank you.

Industry committee  I'm thinking, and I'm getting confirmation on it.

Industry committee  Yes, on the spot like this, I think it's the biggest thing I could come up with. If I went back to my office and thought about it, I could weigh out the pros and cons. Again, you summarized our thinking on this, in terms of if it ain't broke, don't fix it, and this could become resource-intensive for Measurement Canada.

Industry committee  Exactly.

Industry committee  No. That would be a new requirement for electricity and gas. It is an amendment in Bill C-14 that...

Industry committee  ...that changes the Electricity and Gas Inspection Act.

Industry committee  I don't think so. If I did say that, it was because my French... That isn't what I said, André?

Industry committee  Yes.

Industry committee  Oui, and as far as I'm concerned, we haven't started debating that yet. I'm with you, Mr. Masse, if I can say that. I'm trying to deal with the amendment to ENG, and I would hope that we can set it aside. Again, not to beat a dead horse, I think that our experience with the accreditation program under the Electricity and Gas Inspection Act does not indicate that this would be required.

Industry committee  I think I always said "Measurement Canada", but if I said "weights and measures", I apologize.

Industry committee  But also for making sure that they are doing the same thing at Hydro-Québec as at TransAlta, in Alberta, and Hydro Ottawa here in Ottawa. There might be differences in the measurement equipment used to certify meters. There might be differences that are reasonable.

Industry committee  No, what I'm hoping to do is nail away the ENG debate. We don't agree with this. Let's discuss weights and measures. Weights and measures are another story. We're dealing with different stakeholders. We do have a formal training process in place. I guess from where I'm sitting it would be very useful for the committee to determine whether or not this is required for ENG in light of the fact that we've consulted with stakeholders.

Industry committee  I think Measurement Canada would be responsible for training Hydro-Québec technicians. At present, that is the job of Hydro-Québec. We monitor the way the company has implemented the process. When we do our verifications and interviews, we assess how it has been implemented. Our verifications haven't identified any problems with electricity and gas training.