Transport committee  Okay.

Transport committee  I'm not sure that we do have those type of numbers. We'd have to ask those administrations for their statistics.

Transport committee  I think the biggest concern is getting the parties to work together on potential solutions. As you correctly point out, while proximity issues were identified as something—even under the Railway Safety Act review—that we should look at, we just don't have the legislative construct to be able to do that.

Transport committee  It can be anywhere. Obviously there are high volumes of dangerous goods moving across the country every day, so we try to focus on those areas that pose the highest risk. That would be largely the transloading facilities, where they're loaded onto the ship or the train. Then we can spot check at any point to make sure the dangerous goods are properly placarded and classified.

Transport committee  Not under Transport Canada's jurisdiction; we don't have any legislative authority to do that.

Transport committee  As Madame Dagenais indicated, we're working with PHMSA in the United States. We're also targeting our inspections to ensure that crude oil shipments are being properly classified, and if we find any contraventions of the order, we will take appropriate enforcement action. We won't hesitate.

Transport committee  Again, without being able to verify the sources of the report and the allegations being made, it's very difficult to ascertain whether any of it is true.

Transport committee  Yes, it is.

Transport committee  Yes, they are.

Transport committee  We saw the report in The Globe, and that's concerning to us as well. What's more concerning is that the sources in that are not attributable to anyone other than nebulous industry insiders. We have an inspection program, and we will verify that goods have, indeed, been classified recently as per the order.

Transport committee  Certainly it's not secret, Mr. Chair. As we indicated in our protective direction—I believe we explained this at the last meeting as well—the volumes of dangerous goods transported doesn't change that quickly through a given community. When we designed the protective direction, we all sat down at the table with the Railway Association of Canada and the Federation of Canadian Municipalities and asked the best way for us to make this information available.

Transport committee  Maybe the mayor doesn't know about it, but I'm sure his fire department would know about. I can't say for certain whether they contacted us in the Bonnybrook event. Certainly, whenever there is an incident, if a municipality wants to know what's on the consist of that train in terms of dangerous goods, that can be provided to them on a real-time basis as much as we can get it.

Transport committee  Certainly, we have a detailed inspection plan for the TDG directorate, which is based on risk. I think we could probably provide you with the risk management framework we have for determining what the plan is, and we can certainly provide for this committee what our inspection plan is for the coming year, if that's what the committee would wish us to do.

Transport committee  We will be appearing shortly before the public accounts committee. We would hope to have a plan available for the committee at that time.

Transport committee  That would be up to the public accounts committee to.... We expect it could be as early as this year.