Public Safety committee  It is. The way cartridge magazines are determined to be prohibited or not is based on the firearm for which they were designed.

Public Safety committee  Sometimes there are dual-use magazines, or there will be a magazine that's designed for a rifle but that can be used in a handgun. It depends on the firearm the magazine was designed for.

Public Safety committee  I am.

Public Safety committee  That is a question that is best answered by the Canadian firearms program.

Public Safety committee  No, I'm not.

Public Safety committee  Again, I would refer you to the Canadian firearms program because it has technical experts who are best placed to answer those questions for you.

Public Safety committee  There is no definition of “variant” in law. It is a term of art.

Public Safety committee  I cannot provide you with that information, but I would redirect you to the Canadian firearms program.

Public Safety committee  That's correct. The magazine has to be designed for that firearm, so it wouldn't be an aftermarket cartridge magazine. When the firearm is designed originally, the cartridge magazine that goes with that firearm has to be capable of holding more than five cartridges.

Public Safety committee  What would determine whether or not one of these firearms falls within this definition or these qualitative criteria is this: When the firearm was originally designed, was it designed to accept, at the time it was manufactured or designed, an oversized magazine cartridge or a cartridge magazine that's capable of holding more than five cartridges?

Public Safety committee  The intent of this is to ensure that there's a static definition and that the classification of the firearm, as being prohibited, doesn't change based on aftermarket magazines.

Public Safety committee  Agreed. We're here to answer questions related to the motion and the legal aspects—

Public Safety committee  There's no prohibition in the Criminal Code for using a firearm that's not prohibited. For using a cartridge magazine that's non-prohibited, there are no restrictions on how these magazine cartridges are used in other firearms.

Public Safety committee  As to the content of the schedule, I'm going to defer to the Canadian firearms program, because they are going to be able to provide you with accurate answers and more detail. They're truly the technical experts, and I think it would benefit the committee to have their views, knowledge and expertise, which would better enable committee members to have constructive conversation and debate over the content of the schedule.

Public Safety committee  That's correct.